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Tara Green  
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From: Tara Green <jellybeancomf...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:17:37 -0500
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .

Nah. I'll check out the link, but I don't
really watch Olbermann.

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F.H.  
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From: "F.H." <connectut...@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:38:55 -0800
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .

I never watch Fox.  With MSNBC I watch a little of Olbermann, a little
of Maddow and a little of Ed Schultz.  Goz won't believe it but I can't
stand Chris Matthews either.  The only way I know the latest Faux Pas on
Fox or Rush is by way of MSNBC.  I'm watching all of them less and less
all the time however.

If the truth won't "set you free", perhaps understanding the nature of
"truth" can help.
http://www.amazon.com/Being-Certain-Believing-Right-Youre/dp/0312359209


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Tex  
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From: Tex <twizz...@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:16:53 -0800
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 22:38:55 -0800, "F.H." <connectut...@verizon.net>
wrote:

Schultz is a clown ... Obermann has become MSNBC's Bill'O....Maddow
was a bright spot, but is fading...Matthews still has the best guests,
but seems to have lost his balls....Fox ain't worth watching at all
... when the football season ends I'll just cancel directv and save
myself .....

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 More options Nov 7, 6:31 pm
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From: Fred Exley <fexley...@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 23:31:58 -0800
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .

Very admirable.  My point is we'll *never* get it from some sources.
Fox nailed it correctly on day one.  The Rachel Maddow show will *never*
do so.  Even today, while CBS and all the mainstream media reported the
man was driven by his Islamic faith, MSNBC studiously avoided this
salient fact, preferring instead to imply this 'mysterious' shooting was
somehow the fault of the Army, or bullying, or stress -anything but the
truth.  Pure garbage masquerading as journalism.

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 More options Nov 8, 1:01 am
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From: JoeRaisin <joeraisin2...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:01:20 -0500
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .

We ended up seeing "This Is It".

I highly recommend it.

Good night all around - we haven't been out much this year.

Great steak, great movie, great company...

Feeling much more optimistic today.

Leaving the TV off and going out to clean up some leaves.


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F.H.  
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 More options Nov 8, 2:05 am
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From: "F.H." <connectut...@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:05:01 -0800
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .

LMAO, you're a hoot Fred.

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F.H.  
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 More options Nov 8, 2:11 am
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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:11:44 -0800
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .

But better informed than your average clown.

> Obermann has become MSNBC's Bill'O....

Doesn't have people on and then browbeat them.

> Maddow was a bright spot, but is fading...

A little to theatrical sometimes but stays on topic and treats guests
with respect.  Knows her material.

> Matthews still has the best guests, but seems to have lost his balls....

If you're lucky, you'll find out what his guests actually think because
the fucker asks a question and then keeps interrupting and changing the
question while the person is trying go answer.  He /is/ a good /Comrade/
though.

> Fox ain't worth watching at all ...

Unless....., you need righteous indignation to keep you going.

> when the football season ends I'll just cancel directv and save
> myself .....

You think you can last till the *Super* *Bowl*???? :)

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 More options Nov 8, 2:18 am
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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:18:36 GMT
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .

"Rob D." <fr.robert....@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Another eon in Purgatory for that!

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 More options Nov 8, 2:21 am
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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:21:22 GMT
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .

"Tex" <twizz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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Uh, people, there IS A FUCKING WORLD outside of the TV screen, you know.

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F.H.  
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 More options Nov 8, 4:47 am
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From: "F.H." <connectut...@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:47:25 -0800
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .

Heh.

> I am mostly fear driven anyway so its not a good idea to listen to fear
> mongers, right?  I think the die was cast long ago for me and I don't
> seem to have changed much but the way I talk or write sometimes in a
> lame attempt to think that I might actually know something.  I don't, of
> course because the big picture swallowed me up long before I got to
> where I am now....watching to see who is going to do something to
> (mostly) screw me out of some money or peace of mind.  

But not the preachers Gar, /they/ want to /help/ you. <eg>

> I remember a guy in AA who said something that registered for me.  I've
> lived all of my life with financial insecurity, even during so-called
>'good times'.  What this guy said was that he realized that money would
> not cure his financial insecurity....ironic, of course, but so much said.

I have several friends who are quite wealthy.  They seem more fearful
than I would have thought.  One friend said, "making money was easy,
keeping it is what keeps me awake nights."

> Making some kind of good impression on other people also does not relieve
> my personal insecurities and fears. I have to learn to live with all that
> I've been 'given' and hopefully not make it worse by creating some fictional
> Gar.

Amen.

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Tara Green  
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 More options Nov 8, 5:25 am
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From: Tara Green <jellybeancomf...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:25:24 -0500
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .

As long as you ignore all the facts they got
wrong, you mean? After the fact spin being a
forte on that channel....

> The Rachel Maddow show will *never* do
> so.  Even today, while CBS and all the mainstream media reported the man
> was driven by his Islamic faith, MSNBC studiously avoided this salient
> fact, preferring instead to imply this 'mysterious' shooting was somehow
> the fault of the Army, or bullying, or stress -anything but the truth.  
> Pure garbage masquerading as journalism.

Funny. The authorities don't even KNOW the
"truth" of what was behind this attack yet.

Maybe you ought to offer your services (and
that of your Fox news) to those doing the
investigation. They clearly need that arrow
straight bee-line to The Truth you seem to
know how to isolate on each channel. Magical....


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 More options Nov 8, 11:48 am
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:48:38 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .
On Nov 7, 11:03 am, Gary
 I've lived all of my life with financial insecurity, even during so-
called 'good times'.  

> What this guy said was that he realized that money would not cure his
> financial insecurity....ironic, of course, but so much said.  

I've lived in poverty and up to upper middle class most of my life but
in sobriety I learned to save. The result is that having enough money
provides some emotional security but it mostly provides comfort and
being comfortable is ok by me:-)
Jim

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 More options Nov 8, 1:37 pm
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From: Tex <twizz...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:37:06 -0800
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 07:11:44 -0800, "F.H." <connectut...@verizon.net>
wrote:

I have to agree.

>> Obermann has become MSNBC's Bill'O....

>Doesn't have people on and then browbeat them.

Cherry picks all the agree with me guests. Then wastes half a show
with pot shots at Billy O & Beck.

>> Maddow was a bright spot, but is fading...

>A little to theatrical sometimes but stays on topic and treats guests
>with respect.  Knows her material.

I'm 50/50 on her .... she's starting to lean too much.

>> Matthews still has the best guests, but seems to have lost his balls....

>If you're lucky, you'll find out what his guests actually think because
>the fucker asks a question and then keeps interrupting and changing the
>question while the person is trying go answer.  He /is/ a good /Comrade/
>though.

At first he whacked one & all ... now he just does it to the easy
ones.

>> Fox ain't worth watching at all ...

>Unless....., you need righteous indignation to keep you going.

>> when the football season ends I'll just cancel directv and save
>> myself .....

>You think you can last till the *Super* *Bowl*???? :)

Just to the end of the playoffs ... the Super B is more often than not
a dud. Plus, the long wait and BS attached to it makes ya want to just
skip it.

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 More options Nov 8, 1:37 pm
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Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:37:53 -0800
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:21:22 GMT, "Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Uh, people, there IS A FUCKING WORLD outside of the TV screen, you know.

Well there is a computer screen.

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 More options Nov 8, 3:25 pm
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From: "F.H." <connectut...@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:25:59 -0800
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .

Tex wrote:
> "F.H." wrote:

>> Tex wrote:
>>> Obermann has become MSNBC's Bill'O....
>> Doesn't have people on and then browbeat them.
> Cherry picks all the agree with me guests. Then wastes half a show
> with pot shots at Billy O & Beck.

Don't forget Rush, he makes worst persons almost every day.  I think it
was yesterday that Keith gave a total for the number of times Rush has
referred to the anus or made anal jokes and suggested Rush has an anal
fixation.  Rush had said "that if the British Prime Minister keeps
"slobbering" over President Barack Obama, he'll "come down with anal
poisoning and may die from it."

As with Faux, viewers are there for whats there.


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 More options Nov 8, 4:50 pm
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From: Tex <twizz...@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:50:02 -0800
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:25:59 -0800, "F.H." <connectut...@verizon.net>
wrote:

>As with Faux, viewers are there for whats there.

Except it seems there is less n' less to get no matter where you go.

We need to go back to the 'Grit' days .... once a week! Hah ha! I
forgot all about being a 'Grit' carrier...


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Date: Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:25:16 GMT
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Subject: Re: Whoa! Charlie, Mark. . .

"Tex" <twizz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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> On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:21:22 GMT, "Sharx35" <shar...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:

>>Uh, people, there IS A FUCKING WORLD outside of the TV screen, you know.

> Well there is a computer screen.

Thank goodness for that!

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