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 More options May 18, 5:06 am
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From: Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 12:06:37 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 18 2009 5:06 am
Subject: Re: She Sleeps Tight (revision) by Will Dockery
"Rob Evans" <mushmouth-poet @whistle-lisper.com> wrote:

>Will Dockery wrote:

> >> >>> In the genre I work in blues, murder ballads, country-western music,
> >> >>> the subject of wife beating is quite appropriate.

> >> >>> You, of course, just stupidly walked into the mistake Karla Rogers
> >> >>> often points out, you made the mistake of mistaking the poet for the
> >> >>> character speaking in the poem, Mushmouth.

> >> >> the bad review that started it all

My detailed review of exactly what's wrong with you, your dreary
chopped-up-prose poems, and your mushmouthed delivery, Mushmouth.

> >> That you   scribble unspeakable shit.

After all your obsessed slurping after me on my statement that I
enjoyed Karla's poem, that's the best you can do... which leads to the
posting of the revised version of "She Sleeps Tight", which you can
show off your skills and give me a real critique, if you like. Anyone
is welcome, as usual, of course:

'She Sleeps Tight", vocals by Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris, guitars by
Brian Mallard. Paintings by George Sulzbach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uGY157cpiU

She Sleeps Tight

Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater smile.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.

Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.
Dice and coins
scattered in the snow.

Won't be long,
until I see her face.
She's waiting
in an undisclosed place.
I've been conspired
banned from my muse.

This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.
This won't stick
poor boy's all confused.

In Salem town
she keeps her chin so high.
Darkened breeze
she smiles as I roll by.
Step inside
she looks for tables left.

Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.
Wink at time
nothing lasts except yourself.

Like a Steamboat
she plans to roll on down.
To the Gulf
out of this dirty town.
Copper mesh
kept stuffed in a jar.

Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.
Sharp cold hit
turning wine to water.

We know him
eye deed by his ship.
In a trap
a kind of goosechase trip.
Whiskey fumes
and stale gunsmoke.

Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.
Sunk and drowned
with all her knives and jokes.

Sleeps so tight
she has a marksman's eye.
Maker's mark
tattoo firewater spine.
Leather shoes
but nowhere to go.

-Will Dockery (words)
Brian Mallard (music)

©2009 by Dockery-Mallard
Category:  Music

Tags:  Will Dockery  Brian Mallard  Shadowville  Columbus Georgia
Sandy Madaris


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From: "Rob Evans" <p...@sky.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 08:04:30 +0100
Local: Mon, May 18 2009 5:04 pm
Subject: Re: She Sleeps Tight (revision) by Will Dockery

Our resident King Dumbass squits...

> >> >>> In the genre I work in blues, murder ballads, country-western
> >> >>> music,
> >> >>> the subject of wife beating is quite appropriate.

> >> >>> You, of course, just stupidly walked into the mistake Karla Rogers
> >> >>> often points out, you made the mistake of mistaking the poet for
> >> >>> the
> >> >>> character speaking in the poem, Mushmouth.

> >> >> the bad review that started it all

My detailed review of exactly what's wrong with you, your dreary
chopped-up-prose poems

is based on you being just kinda green

and just kinda sad

and just kinda Duckry.

Rob
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From: Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 02:56:27 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Mon, May 18 2009 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: She Sleeps Tight (revision) by Will Dockery
"Rob Evans" <mushmouthed-poet @whistle-lisper.com> wrote:

Based on me giving an honest critique... don't like it? Too bad,
perhaps you should stop reading if it hurts you so much?

--
"She Sleeps Tight", vocals by Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris, guitars by
Brian Mallard. Paintings by George Sulzbach.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uGY157cpiU


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Discussion subject changed to "She Pees To The Right (horribly edited and poorly created amateurish video) by Will Dockery" by Orson Wells as CitizenCain
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From: "Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noem...@here.invalidd>
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:43:00 -0400
Subject: Re: She Pees To The Right (horribly edited and poorly created amateurish video) by Will Dockery

"Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Will, I finally decided to torture myself enough to watch your lame-ass
crappy YouTube videos. You look like you slept in a dumpster, you act like
you're having a epileptic seizure and you sound like someone who just sucked
someone off in the men's room less than five minutes ago. The fact that you
try to make fun of how someone else sounds is fucking laughable and you will
never know the irony of it because you are too self-absorbed to see anything
but what you want to see. You will never amount to anything in life and you
will be nothing more than a post-editing dipshit who needs a shave and a
slap to the face.

> So you got a bad review... get over it, Mushmouth.

Here's your review: YOU FUCKING SUCK

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From: "Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noem...@here.invalidd>
Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 22:45:05 -0400
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Subject: Re: She Sleeps Tight (video) by Will Dockery

"Rob Evans" <p...@sky.com> wrote in message

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He couldn't afford it anyway, unless you wanted to be paid in cigarette
butts and empty bags of Cheetos.

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Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 20:14:27 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Re: She Pees To The Right (horribly edited and poorly created amateurish video) by Will Dockery
On May 19, 7:43 pm, "Orson Wells as CitizenCain"

i'm going to guess the reply to this diatribe:

"hey, thanks for watching.  we just finished up another
session and recorded it to put on youtube.  the song's
called "dancing mary sleeps tonight."  here are
the lyrics:"

(...)

my point is that maybe i can step in, here and there,
and help out with the dockery obsessed.


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From: "Rob Evans" <p...@sky.com>
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 19:16:22 +0100
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Subject: Re: She Sleeps Tight (revision) by Will Dockery
Our resident King Dumbass squits...

<quackslap>

Oh looky:

ya just kinda reap what ya just kinda sow.

Sow green. sow sad, sow Duckry.

Rob
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From: Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 11:24:20 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Thurs, May 21 2009 4:24 am
Subject: Re: She Sleeps Tight (revision) by Will Dockery

"Rob Evans" <mushmo...@liar.com> wrote:

> Oh looky:

"She Sleeps Tight", vocals by Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris, guitars by
Brian Mallard. Paintings by George Sulzbach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uGY157cpiU

Thanks for having a look, and commenting.


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From: "Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noem...@here.invalidd>
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 23:28:42 -0400
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Subject: Re: Throwing Up Now (on Frankie) by Will Dockery -bridge added-

"Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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Waking Up Now (Frankie)

She holds the future...
remembering life is worth living.
She's awake now
she's waking up now

(Is this supposed to be based on your ex-wife who faked her death to get
away from you?)

She had clarity
remembering what it's all about.
She can face tomorrow
that's now plain
trade away her sorrow
for a new day of pain

(yep, definitely your ex-wife)

- snip bile -


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Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 23:40:53 -0400
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Subject: Re: She Sleeps Tight (revision) by Will Dockery

"Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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From: "Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noem...@here.invalidd>
Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 23:54:03 -0400
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Subject: Re: Making Up Lies Now (on Frankie) by Will Dockery -bridge added-

"Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On May 22, 11:28 pm, "Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote:

> "Will Dockery" wrote:

> news:1eb4161f-ee76-4a04-af46-7b5166f3acd7@s28g2000vbp.googlegroups.com...

> Waking Up Now (Frankie)

> She holds the future...
> remembering life is worth living.
> She's awake now
> she's waking up now

> (Is this supposed to be based on your ex-wife

No.

(sure seems that way)

> She had clarity
> remembering what it's all about.
> She can face tomorrow
> that's now plain
> trade away her sorrow
> for a new day of pain

> (yep, definitely your ex-wife)

No,

(then why the 'day of pain? every day with you must have been a living hell)


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Discussion subject changed to "Swimming With the Clouds (words by Will Dockery)" by Will Dockery
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Date: Fri, 22 May 2009 23:02:36 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: Swimming With the Clouds (words by Will Dockery)
Swimming With the Clouds

She had an epiphany
she wants to learn to fly.
Took a sip of coffee from her favorite cup
she knew then the time was to go up
into the clouds
swimming with the clouds.
She wants to fly
touch the sky.

She don't want sympathy
she doesn't plan to die.
Lifts off the ledge looking up
tumbling in the wind like a Dixie Cup
into the clouds
swimming with the clouds.
She wants to fly
reach the sky.

She's flying in the air
where she lands we do not dare to tell.

She's gripped in satori
she's learned how to fly.
She's skyclad now among the stars
way up there, somewhere far.
She's swimming now
out among the clouds.

Words: Will Dockery
Music: Geno Woolfolk & Henry Conley

--
"She Sleeps Tight", vocals by Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris, guitars by
Brian Mallard. Paintings by George Sulzbach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uGY157cpiU


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From: "Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noem...@here.invalidd>
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 13:40:50 -0400
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Subject: Re: Rimming With The Clouds (words by Will Dockery)

"Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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> Swimming With the Clouds

> She had an epiphany
> she wants to learn to fly.
> Took a sip of coffee from her favorite cup
> she knew then the time was to go up
> into the clouds
> swimming with the clouds.
> She wants to fly

YOUR WORDS ARE LIKE YOU: USELESS AND PATHETIC.

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From: Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 23 May 2009 11:54:22 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Sun, May 24 2009 4:54 am
Subject: Re: Swimming With The Clouds (words by Will Dockery)
On May 23, 1:40 pm, "Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote:

> "Will Dockery" wrote in message

> news:b8bf3974-b03d-41a8-80ce-7f089a85f35a@3g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...

> > Swimming With the Clouds

> > She had an epiphany
> > she wants to learn to fly.
> > Took a sip of coffee from her favorite cup
> > she knew then the time was to go up
> > into the clouds
> > swimming with the clouds.
> > She wants to fly

> YOUR WORDS ARE LIKE YOU

They /are/ me, Dink... that's what poetry is all about, not that I
would have expected you to know that.

--
"She Sleeps Tight", vocals by Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris, guitars by
Brian Mallard. Paintings by George Sulzbach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uGY157cpiU


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Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 16:28:17 -0400
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Subject: "Flying Saucer Mechanic" & "Discovery At Trilobite Bay" (spacepoetry vocals)
      Skip Spence & Dark Magic.... the theremin sound...

"The 7 Degrees of Spacegrass"!"Brian Vaughan"wrote:>> ***Howdy!***>
 > ---Brian Fowler wrote:> >> > B.V., Which tunes have Will? Its been so
long
since those sessions, I can't remember.> > ***The tunes with Will's vocals
are "Flying Saucer Mechanic" & "Discovery At Trilobite Bay", which are among
the tunes that haven't been exposed yet. They have been undergoing final
adjustments, getting pretty close to ready.> >    The instrumental tune
currently on the SoundClick page with the title "Discovery At Trilobite Bay"
is getting a name change when I upload the finished version, since that
finished album version will be the definitive track, & my instrumental was a
prototype.***> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > Will and his musical partner Henry Conley
will be at Hogbottom Fest along w/ my bluegrass band Bibb City Ramblers. It
will be great and a reunion of sorts. Rock killough as well as Strokin Dixie
band w/ many more. Will if your checking this out, update  any news you have
about Hogbottom festival.  BCR will have special guest Railroad Bill Fowler
on Dobro (My Father) visiting us from kentucky. He will also be setting in
at theruckerplace.com Rucker place in Birmingham Alabama on April 16th. Ft.
Mitchell Alabama on April 18th. My father will be with BCR both Shows.Also
New album Suckers prize will be for sale at the Festival, also Will Dockery
has new cd out as well. > > ***Wow, you have your father playing at some
gigs, too. I wish I could attend!***> > Cheers,>        B.V.>

> If a Moby Grape revival becomes a going concern, we've got to get Mr.
> Fowler out to the West Coast for a few gigs.
>  Did anyone in the Grape camp take up your open offer?
>  Douglas
>  **********
> Hello, I live in Columbus Ga. If I were in California I would love to play
> some therimen w/ Jerry Miller no doubt. .. peace Brian Fowler
> Yes, the mind boggles at that possibility. ..

Apologies to all, I may have misread this as a done deal and ready to go...
it would be grand, though!

Just listened to his cover of "Motorcyle Irene" with the Bibb City Ramblers
and I'm sure Skip would dig it.

--
"She Sleeps Tight", vocals by Will Dockery & Sandy Madaris, guitars by Brian
Mallard. Paintings by George Sulzbach:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uGY157cpiU


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From: "Will Dockery" <shadowvi...@knology.net>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 07:57:24 -0400
Local: Mon, Sep 21 2009 9:57 pm
Subject: Hard Times Hit Shadowville, venues closing
Yes, in a shocking turn of events -the sudden closing of Sports Rock Cafe-
we the people of Shadowville are down to two open mics, the classic version
at The Loft on Wednesdays (where I was first coaxed onto the stage in 1995,
14 years ago, amazing to think that!) and BJ's all-ages open mic at Fountain
City Coffee on Thursdays. Am I leaving any out? I plan to write a special
column for October on the slightly spooky way the crashing economy is
starting to hit us, and to rally the poets, artists, musicians and madmen of
our village to get out and support the places that are/were giving us a
forum to make our visions available to the public... we don't want to see
another beloved venue follow that path. Feedback, quotable quotes, *ideas*
on how to help turn this trend to defeat around appreciated.

--
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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:56:47 -0400
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Subject: Re: Hard Times Hit Shadowville, venues closing, dockery drinking, pasko puking, city celebrating

"Will Dockery" <shadowvi...@knology.net> wrote in message

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> Yes, in a shocking turn of events -the sudden closing of Sports Rock Cafe-
> we the people of Shadowville are down to two open mics, the classic
> version at The Loft on Wednesdays (where I was first coaxed onto the stage
> in 1995, 14 years ago, amazing to think that!) and BJ's all-ages open mic
> at Fountain City Coffee on Thursdays. Am I leaving any out? I plan to
> write a special column for October on the slightly spooky way the crashing
> economy is starting to hit us, and to rally the poets, artists, musicians
> and madmen of our village to get out and support the places that are/were
> giving us a forum to make our visions available to the public... we don't
> want to see another beloved venue follow that path. Feedback, quotable
> quotes, *ideas* on how to help turn this trend to defeat around
> appreciated.

Sure. Have them ban you for life, and never return, and perhaps the idea of
you being gone will bring people back.

 Maybe put one of those ankle bracelets on you that shocks you if you get
too close or something. Lord knows you'd be too lazy and stupid to try to
remove it.


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From: Will Dockery <will.dock...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2009 07:42:44 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Tues, Oct 6 2009 12:42 am
Subject: Re: Hard Times Hit Shadowville, venues closing, dockery drinking, pasko puking, city celebrating
"Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noem...@here.invalidd> wrote:

I've had that happen a few times... heh.

--
Red Lipped Stranger by Will Dockery & The Shadowville All-Stars:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBhcN1WK144


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From: "Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noem...@here.invalidd>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 08:58:25 -0400
Local: Tues, Oct 6 2009 10:58 pm
Subject: Re: Hard Times Hit Shadowville, venues closing, dockery drinking, pasko puking, city celebrating

"Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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I'm not surprised, you dense drunk. You really need to have life ban you
from life. How about going for a face-down swim in the river, you dumbass?
Just jump on in, aim for the rocks.

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From: "marika" <marika5...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:30:54 -0400
Local: Sun, Oct 11 2009 11:30 pm
Subject: Re: Hard Times Hit Shadowville, venues closing

"Will Dockery" <shadowvi...@knology.net> wrote in message

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I lost a lot of venues over time.  It's part of the business, even in the
best of economic times.  Even in the best of times, things don't work out as
planned.  Good times means increasing costs of staff, short term credit,
beer.   You will lose venues in even the best of times.  Sometimes, they
will just fire your open mike because someone said something impolitic.

If you have a show and want to keep a venue running, you have to keep it
new.  Not just at your own show but for the entire venue.  I can't tell you
how much work I did PRing not just my shows but the shows that were
happening on every other day.  People who come in for one show may like the
atmosphere enough to come back for your show and vice versa.  I used to work
the crowds at every social event in town.  From craft shows to the hoity
toity art events.  I visited every school.  I tried to make myself (in an
honest way) a reason to be covered in the media.  You get to know every
media person and you get them interested.  They make their lives off
covering story and getting advertising dollars.  So it matters to them to
have  a steady supply of stories.

Keep it fresh.  Try something new every few months.  Theme months.  New
leadership.  Free entry to performers only.  More things to involve the
audience.  People like to watch, but they also like to feel like they are
part of the show, like they are part of the in crowd.  Have the audience
team with performers to do improv?  Stuff like that.  Start a committee
announced at the mike to figure out how to preserve open mikes and do pr.
Sometimes people who can't perform like to volunteer behind the scenes.

Include more prizes, especially for silly things.  Get bookstores eg to
offer as a way to do pr.  Or other stores.

That's a few things I did.  If I went back and thought about all the
possibilities, I could write a book.  Above all make the business aspect fun
and the audience will follow


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Discussion subject changed to "Swimming With The Clouds (words by Will Dockery)" by Orson Wells as CitizenCain
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From: "Orson Wells as CitizenCain" <noem...@here.invalidd>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 04:27:01 -0500
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 8:27 pm
Subject: Re: Swimming With The Clouds (words by Will Dockery)

"Will Dockery" <will.dock...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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On May 23, 1:40 pm, "Orson Wells as CitizenCain" wrote:

> "Will Dockery" wrote in message

> news:b8bf3974-b03d-41a8-80ce-7f089a85f35a@3g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...

> > Swimming With the Clouds

> > She had an epiphany
> > she wants to learn to fly.
> > Took a sip of coffee from her favorite cup
> > she knew then the time was to go up
> > into the clouds
> > swimming with the clouds.
> > She wants to fly

> YOUR WORDS ARE LIKE YOU: USELESS AND PATHETIC

They /are/ me, Dink...

Useless and pathetic?

"We know."


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