Joel wrote:
> philo <ph
...@privacy.net> wrote:
>> Joel wrote:
>>> philo <ph...@privacy.net> wrote:
>>>> Ah I see where the confusion is.
>>> I don't have any confusing as I understand
>>> 1. You had Rebels and sold to your friend
>>> 2. You keep the 18-105mm
>>> 3. You want some advice about buying the Canon 50D (and I said it's a good
>>> camera)
>>> 4. Then you asked about the price difference between $800 and $1000. And I
>>> suggested to Google for the company rating.
>>> 5. Then you mention about LOW-LIGHT photography. Then I say that even that
>>> Canon is pretty good on low-light situation (less noise) BUT for low-light
>>> then the LENS is more important than the body. I don't think you get this
>>> part.
>>> 6. I also mentioned that most lens is capable of capturing a stunning image,
>>> but slow lens will have its limitation, requiring more work, and not suit
>>> for fast action etc..
>>>> I do *not* currently have a DSLR as I sold mine.
>>>> (The one I sold was a Rebel and it was really a decent camera...but I
>>>> was not using it)
>>>> It's my *point and shoot* that is not satisfactory in low light
>>>> conditions...so I need to buy another DSLR as most any of them will be
>>>> better than the effective iso of 400 that my point and shoot is limited to.
>>>> Since I like to take candid shots...a flash is taboo.
>>>> Hard to remain inconspicuous if I'm using a flash.
>>>> Anyway, the D50 is at or below the price I paid for the Rebel
>>>> and I think I worthwhile upgrade
>>> AGAIN, if you want to shoot in poor low-light condition then you will need
>>> GOOD FAST LENS. Yes, with Canon 50D you can set the ISO to 400, 800, and
>>> even 1600 (I think it may go up to at least 3200, and even up to 6400), but
>>> without GOOD FAST LENS then it's almost useless to impossible.
>>> Why?
>>> - Cheapie lens often use cheapie GLASS
>>> - Cheapie glass isn't as clearest as the GOOD GLASS (expensive glass) so it
>>> often show noise, blurry etc.. and even more noise at low light situation
>>> - Cheapie Glass is also Slow Focus, besides lot of noise it may do lot of
>>> HUNTING (focusing) and you may end up more miss than hit. It mean that
>>> besides NOISE you may end up with lot of Out Of Focus
>>> IOW, with cheapie slow glass you may even have some focus problem at
>>> bright day light, and now you want to use for candit at poor low-light then
>>> it's even much harder.
>>> So YES, the Canon 50D is a real good camera, and it's kinda dirt cheap
>>> too. But if you want to photograph in poor low-light condition then you
>>> will need Fast Lens to get the best out of it or making thing more possible.
>>> Depending on the lighting condition, you may be able to get by with the
>>> standard f2.8 zoom lens, else you may need to go for prime like f1.8, f1.4,
>>> f1.2 etc..
>> You totally missed the point!
>> I never once mentioned the f stop of the lens I have!
>> I have been doing photography since 1959,
>> I've built my own cameras...
>> you do not need to lecture me on the basics
>> sheesh
> As I have confirmed that you NEVER but that isn't the point. It doesn't
> matter when you start doing photography, or if you built you own camera or
> not. And I do not try to lecture you or anyone, not even the basic.
> But we have to start from very BASIC.
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