Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me if that is the case.
Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia) the SO brought me in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read and I couldn't help noticing that there is a certain similarity between PH and UU.
Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean, Bursar, various named other Fellows whose function is not quite clear, a cantankerous porter, a timid research student and an overweight housekeeper etc.
A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
It just sounded slightly familiar - mind you that could be a result of all the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad enough being woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change your IV drip" or "We've got some pills for you to take" but why the Hell can't they make hospital beds long enough to stretch out in? You have to sleep in a semi-foetal position and then, just when you've got as comfortable as possible, the bastards wake you up!
I've actually stopped drinking for the duration of the takeaway pills so that I don't have to go back.
gary
-- "I really like this jacket but the sleeves are much too long"
GaryN wrote: > Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me if > that is the case.
> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia) the SO brought me > in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read and I couldn't help > noticing that there is a certain similarity between PH and UU.
> Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean, Bursar, > various named other Fellows whose function is not quite clear, a > cantankerous porter, a timid research student and an overweight housekeeper > etc.
> A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
> A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
> It just sounded slightly familiar - mind you that could be a result of all > the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad enough being > woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change your IV drip" or "We've > got some pills for you to take" but why the Hell can't they make hospital > beds long enough to stretch out in? You have to sleep in a semi-foetal > position and then, just when you've got as comfortable as possible, the > bastards wake you up!
> I've actually stopped drinking for the duration of the takeaway pills so > that I don't have to go back.
> gary
Possibly, but since many of the comic versions of Oxbridge take this form, I would not bet on it. Possibly there will follow a lineage of other earlier examples.
-- Reader in Invisible Writings.. Something to Ponder upon!
GaryN wrote: > Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me > if that is the case.
I haven't seen this comment before.
> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia)
I hope you're better now.
> the SO > brought me in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read and > I couldn't help noticing that there is a certain similarity between > PH and UU.
> Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean, > Bursar, various named other Fellows whose function is not quite > clear,
These are stock standard university roles.
> a cantankerous porter,
Stock standard comedy role.
> a timid research student and an
Aren't they all?
> overweight housekeeper etc.
Stock standard comedy role.
> A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
Rowing has a long history in British schools and universities, I believe. I rowed for my school here in Australia, too.
> A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
That could have been inspired by some of Sir pTerry's earlier work (or could be a standard comedic device).
> It just sounded slightly familiar
Apart from the sporting side, most DW UU stories include a lot of the same aspects.
> - mind you that could be a result > of all the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad > enough being woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change your > IV drip" or "We've got some pills for you to take" but why the Hell > can't they make hospital beds long enough to stretch out in? You > have to sleep in a semi-foetal position and then, just when you've > got as comfortable as possible, the bastards wake you up!
Just because you're freakishly tall ;-)
> I've actually stopped drinking for the duration of the takeaway pills > so that I don't have to go back.
Probably a good idea.
Geoff
-- Geoff Field Professional Geek, Amateur Stage-Levelling Gauge
> GaryN wrote: >> Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me if >> that is the case.
>> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia) the SO brought >> me in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read and I couldn't >> help noticing that there is a certain similarity between PH and UU.
>> Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean, >> Bursar, various named other Fellows whose function is not quite clear, a >> cantankerous porter, a timid research student and an overweight >> housekeeper etc.
>> A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
>> A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
>> It just sounded slightly familiar - mind you that could be a result of >> all the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad enough >> being woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change your IV drip" >> or "We've got some pills for you to take" but why the Hell can't they >> make hospital beds long enough to stretch out in? You have to sleep in a >> semi-foetal position and then, just when you've got as comfortable as >> possible, the bastards wake you up!
>> I've actually stopped drinking for the duration of the takeaway pills so >> that I don't have to go back.
>> gary
> Possibly, but since many of the comic versions of Oxbridge take this form, > I would not bet on it. Possibly there will follow a lineage of other > earlier examples.
> -- > Reader in Invisible Writings.. Something to Ponder upon!
Sadly, as I discussed with one of my lecturers[1], there is a lot of truth within satirical writing. However I would be gratefull if someone could enlighten me with examples of 3b @ Oxbridge etc.
I wish I had been elightened before going to Uni.[2]
Chris
[1] I think I said "Pratchett was right about this place."[3] [2] I had read one of my late father's course books but I was already there.[4] [3] I had been waiting, with a PHP issue, to speak to the lecturer long enough to determine that he was discussing the works of another author and not doing what we are paying him to do. [4]Given time I could dig out the relavant literary reviews.
"Geoff Field" <geofffi...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:4af5d0d9$0$5993 $afc38...@news.optusnet.com.au:
> GaryN wrote: >> Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me >> if that is the case.
> I haven't seen this comment before.
>> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia)
> I hope you're better now.
I'm improved, although it's strange that I'm convinced that I was in there at least 3 days whereas everyone else tells me it was from Wednesday night to Friday morning.
>> the SO >> brought me in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read and >> I couldn't help noticing that there is a certain similarity between >> PH and UU.
>> Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean, >> Bursar, various named other Fellows whose function is not quite >> clear,
> These are stock standard university roles.
Umm, yes, but the Dean hates the new Master and the Bursar wavers on the cusp of sanity whilst trying to be on both sides at once.
>> a cantankerous porter,
> Stock standard comedy role.
Who insists that tradition must carry on regardless of anyone's opinion.
>> A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
> Rowing has a long history in British schools and universities, > I believe. I rowed for my school here in Australia, too.
>> A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
> That could have been inspired by some of Sir pTerry's > earlier work (or could be a standard comedic device).
>> It just sounded slightly familiar
> Apart from the sporting side, most DW UU stories > include a lot of the same aspects.
>> - mind you that could be a result >> of all the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad >> enough being woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change your >> IV drip" or "We've got some pills for you to take" but why the Hell >> can't they make hospital beds long enough to stretch out in? You >> have to sleep in a semi-foetal position and then, just when you've >> got as comfortable as possible, the bastards wake you up!
> Just because you're freakishly tall ;-)
Nah, I'm only 6'.
gary
-- "I really like this jacket but the sleeves are much too long"
GaryN wrote: > Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me if > that is the case.
> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia)
You don't seem to be having much luck lately - was it flu? I hope you're feeling better now.
> the SO brought me > in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read and I couldn't help > noticing that there is a certain similarity between PH and UU.
> Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean, Bursar, > various named other Fellows whose function is not quite clear, a > cantankerous porter, a timid research student and an overweight housekeeper > etc.
> A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
> A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
So both PH and UU resemble any Oxford college, and probably any other university or college of a university too.
> It just sounded slightly familiar - mind you that could be a result of all > the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad enough being > woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change your IV drip" or "We've > got some pills for you to take" but why the Hell can't they make hospital > beds long enough to stretch out in? You have to sleep in a semi-foetal > position and then, just when you've got as comfortable as possible, the > bastards wake you up!
The best one is when they wake you up so that you can take a sleeping pill. This used to be the usual practice in Oxford hospitals, but Vancouver ones seem to be a bit more rational - or perhaps it's just that time has passed in both places.
> I've actually stopped drinking for the duration of the takeaway pills so > that I don't have to go back.
Probably a good idea. Hope it works.
-- Lesley Weston
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GaryN wrote: > "Geoff Field" <geofffi...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:4af5d0d9$0$5993 > $afc38...@news.optusnet.com.au:
>> GaryN wrote: >>> Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me >>> if that is the case. >> I haven't seen this comment before.
>>> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia) >> I hope you're better now.
> I'm improved, although it's strange that I'm convinced that I was in > there at least 3 days whereas everyone else tells me it was from > Wednesday night to Friday morning.
Maybe it's something about the John Radcliffe [1] that has that effect.
[1] So named to distinguish it from the venerable Radcliffe Hospital. The first phase when it was brand new [2] was covered in white tiles, so it was generally known as the John.
[2] And when I worked there.
-- Lesley Weston
The addy above is real, but I won't see anything posted to it for a long time. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca, adjusting as necessary.
Chris Watt wrote: > "Reader in Invisible Writings" <markfowera...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:hd4i5a$4h2$1@mud.stack.nl... >> GaryN wrote: >>> Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me if >>> that is the case.
>>> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia) the SO brought >>> me in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read and I couldn't >>> help noticing that there is a certain similarity between PH and UU.
>>> Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean, >>> Bursar, various named other Fellows whose function is not quite clear, a >>> cantankerous porter, a timid research student and an overweight >>> housekeeper etc.
>>> A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
>>> A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
>>> It just sounded slightly familiar - mind you that could be a result of >>> all the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad enough >>> being woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change your IV drip" >>> or "We've got some pills for you to take" but why the Hell can't they >>> make hospital beds long enough to stretch out in? You have to sleep in a >>> semi-foetal position and then, just when you've got as comfortable as >>> possible, the bastards wake you up!
>>> I've actually stopped drinking for the duration of the takeaway pills so >>> that I don't have to go back.
>>> gary
>> Possibly, but since many of the comic versions of Oxbridge take this form, >> I would not bet on it. Possibly there will follow a lineage of other >> earlier examples.
>> -- >> Reader in Invisible Writings.. Something to Ponder upon!
> Sadly, as I discussed with one of my lecturers[1], there is a lot of truth > within satirical writing. However I would be gratefull if someone could > enlighten me with examples of 3b @ Oxbridge etc.
> I wish I had been elightened before going to Uni.[2]
> Chris
> [1] I think I said "Pratchett was right about this place."[3] > [2] I had read one of my late father's course books but I was already > there.[4] > [3] I had been waiting, with a PHP issue, to speak to the lecturer long > enough to determine that he was discussing the works of another author and > not doing what we are paying him to do. > [4]Given time I could dig out the relavant literary reviews.
If 3b is "really huge dinners" I don't, but Douglas Adams has a scene in "Dirk Gently's Detective Agency" during the Coleridge Dinner - which is clearly a formal dinner of some standing and was large if not particularly fine.
-- Reader in Invisible Writings.. Something to Ponder upon!
> Chris Watt wrote: >> "Reader in Invisible Writings" <markfowera...@hotmail.com> wrote in >> message news:hd4i5a$4h2$1@mud.stack.nl... >>> GaryN wrote: >>>> Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at >>>> me if that is the case.
>>>> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia) the SO >>>> brought me in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read and >>>> I couldn't help noticing that there is a certain similarity between >>>> PH and UU.
>>>> Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean, >>>> Bursar, various named other Fellows whose function is not quite >>>> clear, a cantankerous porter, a timid research student and an >>>> overweight housekeeper etc.
>>>> A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
>>>> A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
>>>> It just sounded slightly familiar - mind you that could be a result >>>> of all the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad >>>> enough being woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change >>>> your IV drip" or "We've got some pills for you to take" but why the >>>> Hell can't they make hospital beds long enough to stretch out in? >>>> You have to sleep in a semi-foetal position and then, just when >>>> you've got as comfortable as possible, the bastards wake you up!
>>>> I've actually stopped drinking for the duration of the takeaway >>>> pills so that I don't have to go back.
>>>> gary
>>> Possibly, but since many of the comic versions of Oxbridge take this >>> form, I would not bet on it. Possibly there will follow a lineage of >>> other earlier examples.
>>> -- >>> Reader in Invisible Writings.. Something to Ponder upon!
>> Sadly, as I discussed with one of my lecturers[1], there is a lot of >> truth within satirical writing. However I would be gratefull if >> someone could enlighten me with examples of 3b @ Oxbridge etc.
>> I wish I had been elightened before going to Uni.[2]
>> Chris
>> [1] I think I said "Pratchett was right about this place."[3] >> [2] I had read one of my late father's course books but I was already >> there.[4] >> [3] I had been waiting, with a PHP issue, to speak to the lecturer >> long enough to determine that he was discussing the works of another >> author and not doing what we are paying him to do. >> [4]Given time I could dig out the relavant literary reviews.
> If 3b is "really huge dinners" I don't, but Douglas Adams has a scene in > "Dirk Gently's Detective Agency" during the Coleridge Dinner - which is > clearly a formal dinner of some standing and was large if not > particularly fine.
3b - imaginary room. I know I have notes from imaginary lectures I attended.
> GaryN wrote: >> Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me if >> that is the case.
>> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia)
> You don't seem to be having much luck lately - was it flu? I hope you're > feeling better now.
>> the SO brought me in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read >> and I couldn't help noticing that there is a certain similarity between >> PH and UU.
>> Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean, >> Bursar, various named other Fellows whose function is not quite clear, a >> cantankerous porter, a timid research student and an overweight >> housekeeper etc.
>> A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
>> A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
> So both PH and UU resemble any Oxford college, and probably any other > university or college of a university too.
>> It just sounded slightly familiar - mind you that could be a result of >> all the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad enough >> being woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change your IV drip" >> or "We've got some pills for you to take" but why the Hell can't they >> make hospital beds long enough to stretch out in? You have to sleep in a >> semi-foetal position and then, just when you've got as comfortable as >> possible, the bastards wake you up!
> The best one is when they wake you up so that you can take a sleeping > pill. This used to be the usual practice in Oxford hospitals, but > Vancouver ones seem to be a bit more rational - or perhaps it's just that > time has passed in both places.
Must be an NHS thing, my Dad claimed the same thing happened to him. Mind you he also claimed my mum wrapped him in a carpet and threw him out the window in ICU, but that was another occasion.
GaryN wrote: > Apologies if I missed a previous discussion, feel free to shout at me if > that is the case.
> Whilst I was in hospital last week (left lobe pneumonia) the SO brought me > in a copy of "Porterhouse Blue" by Tom Sharpe to read and I couldn't help > noticing that there is a certain similarity between PH and UU.
> Obviously not in magical terms but the characters ie: Master, Dean, Bursar, > various named other Fellows whose function is not quite clear, a > cantankerous porter, a timid research student and an overweight housekeeper > etc.
But many school stories would have some of thoes.
> A proud sporting record of winning 'The Bumps'(rowing).
> A proud gastranomic record of really huge dinners.
> It just sounded slightly familiar - mind you that could be a result of all > the drugs pumped into me and the lack of sleep. It's bad enough being > woken up every 2 hours because "We've got to change your IV drip" or "We've > got some pills for you to take"
At least you can sleep. I have spent rthe last two days so sick that I can't get to sleep at all. What I hate is they keep asking how much pain on a one to ten scale, but never do anything about it.
> but why the Hell can't they make hospital > beds long enough to stretch out in? You have to sleep in a semi-foetal > position and then, just when you've got as comfortable as possible, the > bastards wake you up!
> I've actually stopped drinking for the duration of the takeaway pills so > that I don't have to go back.
> gary
For sonme reason that didn't make sence to me.
> -- > "I really like this jacket > but the sleeves are much too long"
> Motorhead - 'Back At The Funny Farm'.
-- Richard The Blind Typer. Lets hear it for talking computers. Lets go for talking i-pods!
> At least you can sleep. I have spent rthe last two days so sick that I can't > get to sleep at all. What I hate is they keep asking how much pain on a one to > ten scale, but never do anything about it.
I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you feel better soon.
-- Lesley Weston
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> At least you can sleep. I have spent rthe last two days so sick that > I can't get to sleep at all. What I hate is they keep asking how much > pain on a one to ten scale, but never do anything about it.
That's one that I've never worked out. Does a minor 'ouch' from a paper cut count as 1 or about -5? Does lying on your back with more broken bones than you can count on your remaining fingers count as 10?
Who decides anyway? If my ability to deal with pain is greater than the whinging git in the next bed; who gets served first? My leg is broken in 4 places and I'm just gritting my teeth and getting on with it, he's stubbed his toe and is shouting louder than my niece when she's short of milk.
Of Course It Fucking Hurts - I wouldn't be in hospital otherwise!
gary
-- "I really like this jacket but the sleeves are much too long"
>> At least you can sleep. I have spent rthe last two days so sick that >> I can't get to sleep at all. What I hate is they keep asking how >> much pain on a one to ten scale, but never do anything about it.
> That's one that I've never worked out. Does a minor 'ouch' from a > paper cut count as 1 or about -5? Does lying on your back with more > broken bones than you can count on your remaining fingers count as 10?
> Who decides anyway? If my ability to deal with pain is greater than > the whinging git in the next bed; who gets served first? My leg is > broken in 4 places and I'm just gritting my teeth and getting on with > it, he's stubbed his toe and is shouting louder than my niece when > she's short of milk.
> Of Course It Fucking Hurts - I wouldn't be in hospital otherwise!
There was a scene in Scrubs where they used a chart with yellow smiley (only not smiling) faces on it, each one showing a different amount of agony, and matched the patient's expression to the closest one on the chart. It was aknowledged that this did not actually tell you anything. The impression I got was that they only used the chart when they didn't have a clue what was actually wrong with the patient, just that they were "in pain".
-- Dave "All those with psychokinesis, raise my hand." The Room With No Doors, Kate Orman
> > At least you can sleep. I have spent rthe last two days so sick that I can't > > get to sleep at all. What I hate is they keep asking how much pain on a one to > > ten scale, but never do anything about it.
> I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you feel better soon.
> -- > Lesley Weston
> The addy above is real, but I won't see anything posted to it for a long > time. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca, adjusting as necessary.
I am getting better slowly. I just wish the pain would go away long enugf to get some sleep. There doing tests, but so far I am finding out what isn't causing the problem.
-- Richard The Blind Typer. Lets hear it for talking computers. Lets go for talking i-pods!
> > At least you can sleep. I have spent rthe last two days so sick that > > I can't get to sleep at all. What I hate is they keep asking how much > > pain on a one to ten scale, but never do anything about it.
> That's one that I've never worked out. Does a minor 'ouch' from a paper > cut count as 1 or about -5? Does lying on your back with more broken bones > than you can count on your remaining fingers count as 10?
> Who decides anyway? If my ability to deal with pain is greater than the > whinging git in the next bed; who gets served first? My leg is broken in 4 > places and I'm just gritting my teeth and getting on with it, he's stubbed > his toe and is shouting louder than my niece when she's short of milk.
> Of Course It Fucking Hurts - I wouldn't be in hospital otherwise!
> gary
> -- > "I really like this jacket > but the sleeves are much too long"
> Motorhead - 'Back At The Funny Farm'.
The way I understand it they use the numbers you give them to tell if your getting better or worse. This is paired with the fact that most wouldn't even ask a guy with a stubbed toe the question. They would send him for x-rays after the more important people. In my case two accadent people were taken into x-ray before I was. They didn't find any blockage or infection and so sent me on to the next test.
-- Richard The Blind Typer. Lets hear it for talking computers. Lets go for talking i-pods!
Apparently for most people a 3 is just more than uncomfortable, and an 8 is unbearable (I hope to never experience a 10). This from a scientist acquaintance studying pain - he delivers metered amounts of pain to volunteers and registers their response. The aim of his study was to come up with a system that would measure how effective pain treatments are. Fwiw, according to him women do in general have higher pain thresholds than men, although surprisingly Asian women have the lowest pain thresholds of any of the groups studied.
>> At least you can sleep. I have spent rthe last two days so sick that >> I can't get to sleep at all. What I hate is they keep asking how much >> pain on a one to ten scale, but never do anything about it.
> That's one that I've never worked out. Does a minor 'ouch' from a paper > cut count as 1 or about -5? Does lying on your back with more broken > bones > than you can count on your remaining fingers count as 10?
> Who decides anyway? If my ability to deal with pain is greater than the > whinging git in the next bed; who gets served first? My leg is broken in > 4 > places and I'm just gritting my teeth and getting on with it, he's stubbed > his toe and is shouting louder than my niece when she's short of milk.
> Of Course It Fucking Hurts - I wouldn't be in hospital otherwise!
> gary
> -- > "I really like this jacket > but the sleeves are much too long"
> Apparently for most people a 3 is just more than uncomfortable, and an > 8 is unbearable (I hope to never experience a 10). This from a > scientist acquaintance studying pain - he delivers metered amounts of > pain to volunteers and registers their response. The aim of his study > was to come up with a system that would measure how effective pain > treatments are. Fwiw, according to him women do in general have higher > pain thresholds than men, although surprisingly Asian women have the > lowest pain thresholds of any of the groups studied.
<snip>
The point being that my, say 5, might be someone else's 8. I've taken a fair amount of damage over the years and learned to live with it. Some young whippersnapper who's never so much as sprained an ankle will be screaming in agony over something that I would regard as a minor nuisance. As a system for working out damage it has it's failings.
After having a half ton motorcycle fall on my leg, breaking everything below the knee, I was asked, when I got to hospital, "How much pain are you in on a scale of 1-10?". The answer was simple - "I don't know because the ambulance crew gave me 2 doses of oral morphine and the natural endorphins have kicked in as well and frankly I can't feel a damn thing"
Exit stage left for the 1-10 scale!
Oh, and please don't top-post, it's sort of frowned upon in this group.
gary
-- "I really like this jacket but the sleeves are much too long"
> > Apparently for most people a 3 is just more than uncomfortable, and an > > 8 is unbearable (I hope to never experience a 10). This from a > > scientist acquaintance studying pain - he delivers metered amounts of > > pain to volunteers and registers their response. The aim of his study > > was to come up with a system that would measure how effective pain > > treatments are. Fwiw, according to him women do in general have higher > > pain thresholds than men, although surprisingly Asian women have the > > lowest pain thresholds of any of the groups studied. > <snip>
> The point being that my, say 5, might be someone else's 8. I've taken a > fair amount of damage over the years and learned to live with it. Some > young whippersnapper who's never so much as sprained an ankle will be > screaming in agony over something that I would regard as a minor nuisance. > As a system for working out damage it has it's failings.
> After having a half ton motorcycle fall on my leg, breaking everything > below the knee, I was asked, when I got to hospital, "How much pain are you > in on a scale of 1-10?". The answer was simple - "I don't know because the > ambulance crew gave me 2 doses of oral morphine and the natural endorphins > have kicked in as well and frankly I can't feel a damn thing"
That's why here they don't give pain relief until you get to the ER, so I had my crushed foot in full stereo for an hour. Even then the bastards didn't check my foot, and assumed it was my leg instead. I still limp 30 years later.
In message <141120090247405247%j...@wilkins.id.au> John Wilkins <j...@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
>That's why here they don't give pain relief until you get to the ER, so >I had my crushed foot in full stereo for an hour. Even then the >bastards didn't check my foot, and assumed it was my leg instead. I >still limp 30 years later.
When I broke my arm in a motorcycle accident the ambulance crew gave me some gas, it was wonderful I felt no pain at all.
>>> At least you can sleep. I have spent rthe last two days so sick that I can't >>> get to sleep at all. What I hate is they keep asking how much pain on a one to >>> ten scale, but never do anything about it. >> I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you feel better soon.
>> -- >> Lesley Weston
>> The addy above is real, but I won't see anything posted to it for a long >> time. To reach me, use leswes att shaw dott ca, adjusting as necessary.
> I am getting better slowly. I just wish the pain would go away long enugf to get > some sleep. There doing tests, but so far I am finding out what isn't causing the > problem.
That seems to be the way tests work, with the added advantage that what they're testing for are usually the nastier things, so that eliminating those also eliminates a lot of worry. Anyway, I hope it all goes well.
-- Lesley Weston
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>> In message <Xns9CC1BEE411826garyscaryriders...@212.23.3.119> >> GaryN <g...@scaryriders.com> wrote:
>>>My leg is broken in 4 places
>> Don't go to those 4 places again.
>> Sorry could not resist that.
>Given that you've taken damage in a bike crash yourself you're >forgiven...;-)
The best bit was I was sitting on the side of the road holding my arm, when this woman tried to take my crash helmet off, the trouble was it was still done up, so I was being lifted of the ground.
I found it funny later.
>I didn't mind being seconded after motorcycle accident victims some years >ago when I'd broken my collar bone playing rugby - their need greater >etc...
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