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Quinn  
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 More options Oct 15 2006, 3:43 pm
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From: "Quinn" <jdew...@ptialaska.net>
Date: 14 Oct 2006 22:43:57 -0700
Local: Sun, Oct 15 2006 3:43 pm
Subject: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition
I was lucky enough to hear Terry at the Seattle book signing Oct 13. A
few comments:

   1. The guy was tired, nearly exhausted. Whoever is booking his tours
needs to find a new job torturing flies or something. Between time
zones, sleeping in forn beds, signing far too many books and eating
dubious food, it was sometimes painful to watch.

   2. The next book has the provisional title "Making Money" and will
feature Moist Van Lipwig. We got a few tidbits, including the news that
the book is nearly finished, but I'll keep the juicy bits to myself. It
would be finished, but for the current tour. Yet another reason to give
them up.

    3. The next book after is the (probably) last Tiffany Aching book,
"I Shall Wear Midnight." Not a lot of details, yet.

    4. Terry is under contract for one further Discworld book after
that. Not a clue what it will be about, although there were vague hints
of Rincewind.

    5. Terry was explicit that there was no commitment for Discworld
books beyond that. In response to the stricken looks (and moans) in the
audience of 300 or so, he told us that didn't mean there wouldn't be
any more, just that he wasn't promising anything. I am unsure how much
this was a reflection of the exhaustion or something more.

    6. In response to a rude personal question (Americans, what can I
say), Terry allowed as how his heart was in fine shape and the heart
attack-like symptoms were an esophogeal spasms.

Despite all this, Terry was in fine form, plainly jazzed about the
upcoming release of the "Hogfather" movie. He spoke at some length
about the cast, the crew, the props, the script and the rushes, some of
which he has seen.

You will all want to look up the origins of the word "fornicator" at
some point soon.

I'm not sure if Terry hangs out on AFP, but if he is reading: thanks
for a wonderful presentation, thanks for signing the books, and for the
photo. I read "Wintersmith" cover to cover on the slight home to
Alaska, and it was delightful, easily the best Tiffany Aching book yet.
My wife complained that my laughter Kept her awake in the adjoining
seat, but it's the only complaint I've heard.

Quinn - Terry's Biggest Alaska Fan


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Arthur Hagen  
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 More options Oct 15 2006, 8:52 pm
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From: "Arthur Hagen" <a...@broomstick.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 06:52:13 -0400
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Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

Quinn <jdew...@ptialaska.net> wrote:

possible spoiler space for Making Money:

1

two

3

four

5

six

7

oban

9

ten

> You will all want to look up the origins of the word "fornicator" at
> some point soon.

Checking Etymonline, I find it's from fornus = "oven of arched or domed
shape".
I guess it's one of the intermediate meanings you want us to find, like
fornix = vault.

Regards,
--
*Art


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 More options Oct 15 2006, 9:24 pm
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Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:24:14 +0100
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Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

Arthur Hagen wrote:
> Quinn <jdew...@ptialaska.net> wrote:

> possible spoiler space for Making Money:

> 1

> two

> 3

> four

> 5

> six

> 7

> oban

> 9

> ten

>> You will all want to look up the origins of the word "fornicator" at
>> some point soon.

> Checking Etymonline, I find it's from fornus = "oven of arched or domed
> shape".
> I guess it's one of the intermediate meanings you want us to find, like
> fornix = vault.

And the fact that, in the Imperial Rome, there were a number of brothels
under the arches of the aqueducts. Hence "visiting the arches" became a
euphemism for commercial sex.

A bit like the British meaning of "randy" that the Americans don't know.


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 More options Oct 15 2006, 10:40 pm
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 12:40:24 GMT
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Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition
The time: 15 Oct 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
speaker: Alec Cawley <a...@spamspam.co.uk>

> Arthur Hagen wrote:
>> Quinn <jdew...@ptialaska.net> wrote:

>> possible spoiler space for Making Money:

>> 1

>> two

>> 3

>> four

>> 5

>> six

>> 7

>> oban

>> 9

>> ten

>>> You will all want to look up the origins of the word
>>> "fornicator" at some point soon.

>> Checking Etymonline, I find it's from fornus = "oven of
>> arched or domed shape".
>> I guess it's one of the intermediate meanings you want us
>> to find, like fornix = vault.

Yep, that has the potential to be a very interesting pun in a
book about the banking industry.

> And the fact that, in the Imperial Rome, there were a
> number of brothels under the arches of the aqueducts. Hence
> "visiting the arches" became a euphemism for commercial
> sex.

"Underneath the arches, I <bleep> my <bleep> away..."
-I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue.

--
Dave
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as is the need to assert the superiority of some things
over other things."
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Arthur Hagen  
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 More options Oct 16 2006, 12:00 am
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From: "Arthur Hagen" <a...@broomstick.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 10:00:16 -0400
Local: Mon, Oct 16 2006 12:00 am
Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

Daibhid Ceanaideach <daibhidchened...@aol.com> wrote:
> The time: 15 Oct 2006. The place: alt.fan.pratchett. The
> speaker: Alec Cawley <a...@spamspam.co.uk>

>> Arthur Hagen wrote:
>>> Quinn <jdew...@ptialaska.net> wrote:

>>> possible spoiler space for Making Money:

>>> 1

>>> two

>>> 3

>>> four

>>> 5

>>> six

>>> 7

>>> oban

>>> 9

>>> ten

>>>> You will all want to look up the origins of the word
>>>> "fornicator" at some point soon.

>>> Checking Etymonline, I find it's from fornus = "oven of
>>> arched or domed shape".
>>> I guess it's one of the intermediate meanings you want us
>>> to find, like fornix = vault.

> Yep, that has the potential to be a very interesting pun in a
> book about the banking industry.

Interestingly, the word "vault" has the same etymology as "vulva".

Regards,
--
*Art


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 More options Oct 16 2006, 2:44 am
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Date: 15 Oct 2006 09:44:07 -0700
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Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition
Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhh!!!  Your wife is a big hippo!!!!!

I *so* wanted to come down for the U Bookstore appearance.  I mean, I
live a damned mile away, for God's sake.  Unfortunately, the universe
conspired against me in myriad ways and this whole weekend turned into
the biggest cluster-you-know-what imaginable.  I mean, this was
Murphy's Law on a freaking QUANTUM level (which I'm sure Terry would
appreciate).  So, I had to miss it.  I contented myself with curling up
in bed with chicken noodle soup and "Wintersmith" (again).

At least it doesn't sound like my absence made much of a dent in the
crowd.  And I'm rather miffed to hear that some jerk, as usual, caused
us (the Americans of course) to look idiotic.  I've had enough of
tactless cretins to last me a lifetime at the moment.  Sigh.

Terry, if you ever read this (amidst what sounds like an extremely full
schedule), I was with you in spirit!  I really wish I could have gone,
if only because the very sight of you would have brightened my weekend
considerably.  But alas, it was not to be.

*grumble grumble*

Molly


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 More options Oct 18 2006, 11:02 am
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Date: 17 Oct 2006 18:02:39 -0700
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Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

Quinn wrote:
>     5. Terry was explicit that there was no commitment for Discworld
> books beyond [three more counting the already-annotated "Midnight"].
> In response to the stricken looks (and moans) in the audience of 300
> or so, he told us that didn't mean there wouldn't be any more, just that
> he wasn't promising anything.  I am unsure how much this was a
> reflection of the exhaustion or something more.

He said the same thing a few books ago.  Who knows, he could go out of
fashion, or worse.  He could decide being a lumberjack is healthier
(doubtful according to a recent one of Stephen Fry's "QI" show).  But
you get to kill trees in /person/ rather than by proxy  ;-)  The limit
is just how many ideas he reckons he has alive, I think, and how far he
looks ahead.  That even might be what he said if anyone heard  ;-)

If he isn't enjoying the tour I'm sorry about that.  You're right,
these things can be gruelling by all accounts.  In some places he /can/
do with the publicity, America he needs to work on...  and I think they
need to hear his message ("All gods are bastards").


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David Sewell  
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 More options Oct 18 2006, 3:08 pm
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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 05:08:41 GMT
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Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 18:02:39 -0700, Robert Carnegie wrote:
> If he isn't enjoying the tour I'm sorry about that.  You're right,
> these things can be gruelling by all accounts.  In some places he /can/
> do with the publicity, America he needs to work on...  and I think they
> need to hear his message ("All gods are bastards").

I'm just back from Terry's Washington, DC, appearance, his next-to-last on
the US tour. He was definitely anything but tired (or if he was he was
faking energy and bounciness amazingly well) and seemed to be enjoying
himself, and the audience ditto. No one asked stupid questions. His
offhand remark that although he's never been accused of being a
monarchist, kings and queens could hardly do any worse than certain prime
ministers and presidents got delighted applause. This reading was billed
as a children's event by the sponsor (Politics and Prose bookshop), but of
course the audience was a mix of old fans and new, and Terry did a fine
job of speaking to both constituencies.

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Terry Pratchett  
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 More options Oct 21 2006, 1:54 am
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Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:54:43 +0100
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Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition
In message <1160930647.940491.224...@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
mollificent <harpmo...@earthlink.net> writes

>Aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhh!!!  Your wife is a big hippo!!!!!

>At least it doesn't sound like my absence made much of a dent in the
>crowd.  And I'm rather miffed to hear that some jerk, as usual, caused
>us (the Americans of course) to look idiotic.  I've had enough of
>tactless cretins to last me a lifetime at the moment.  Sigh.

I'm heavily jetlagged, which must be why I'm reading afp so close to a
book release.

For what it's worth, I didn't think there was anything wrong with the
question; my health has been kind of public in any case, since it
buggered up a couple of tours.  I think it was kindly meant
--
Terry Pratchett


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 More options Oct 21 2006, 2:48 am
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Date: 20 Oct 2006 09:48:35 -0700
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Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

Terry Pratchett wrote:

> For what it's worth, I didn't think there was anything wrong with the
> question; my health has been kind of public in any case, since it
> buggered up a couple of tours.  I think it was kindly meant
> --
> Terry Pratchett

Heh heh...thanks for the response, Terry.  And rereading my original
post, I wasn't exactly sounding like my usual sweetness and light,
either *grin*.  In my own defense, it really had been an awful weekend.
 But I do wish I could have gone to see you (so you could ask if I get
carded a lot in pubs again ;)).

I sincerely hope you are in good health and remain so for the
foreseeable future.  And stay away from anyone who sounds unduly  like
Christopher Lee or James Earl Jones. *g*

Cheers,

Molly


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 More options Oct 21 2006, 2:51 am
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Date: 20 Oct 2006 09:51:44 -0700
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mollificent wrote:
> In my own defense, it really had been an awful weekend.

No, no time travel was involved.  I meant that it had been an awful
*week* (given that the reading was on Friday night).  Having said that,
the first thirty-six hours of the weekend did continue the trend.  At
least Sunday was a vast improvement (sold a harp and hosted an
incredible Welsh folk music concert).

OK, enough babbling.  Really.

Molly


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 More options Oct 21 2006, 3:10 pm
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Quinn wrote:
> I was lucky enough to hear Terry at the Seattle book signing Oct 13. A
> few comments:

>    1. The guy was tired, nearly exhausted. Whoever is booking his tours
> needs to find a new job torturing flies or something. Between time
> zones, sleeping in forn beds, signing far too many books and eating
> dubious food, it was sometimes painful to watch.

>    2. The next book has the provisional title "Making Money" and will
> feature Moist Van Lipwig. We got a few tidbits, including the news that
> the book is nearly finished, but I'll keep the juicy bits to myself. It
> would be finished, but for the current tour. Yet another reason to give
> them up.

>     3. The next book after is the (probably) last Tiffany Aching book,
> "I Shall Wear Midnight." Not a lot of details, yet.

>     4. Terry is under contract for one further Discworld book after
> that. Not a clue what it will be about, although there were vague hints
> of Rincewind.

Call me a biased footy nut, but I'm still holding out hope for Unseen
Academicals. :o)

>     5. Terry was explicit that there was no commitment for Discworld
> books beyond that. In response to the stricken looks (and moans) in the
> audience of 300 or so, he told us that didn't mean there wouldn't be
> any more, just that he wasn't promising anything. I am unsure how much
> this was a reflection of the exhaustion or something more.

>     6. In response to a rude personal question (Americans, what can I
> say), Terry allowed as how his heart was in fine shape and the heart
> attack-like symptoms were an esophogeal spasms.

In the once in a lifetime opportunity to catch Terry life he didn't need
much prompting to go on about his recent health history.  I can identify
with the esophogeal spasm thing as years ago I found myself on a gurney
with stickers and wires all over my chest.  Most were puzzled by these
extremely sharp pains which would come and go, often feeling like a
sharp stab through the back.  A bright young physio got to the root of
the problem by asking me how things were going.  It was stress related
and required proper stress management.  It doesn't show up much anymore
and if it does I know progressive muscle relaxation which stops it
immediately.
> Despite all this, Terry was in fine form, plainly jazzed about the
> upcoming release of the "Hogfather" movie. He spoke at some length
> about the cast, the crew, the props, the script and the rushes, some of
> which he has seen.

> You will all want to look up the origins of the word "fornicator" at
> some point soon.

> I'm not sure if Terry hangs out on AFP, but if he is reading: thanks
> for a wonderful presentation, thanks for signing the books, and for the
> photo. I read "Wintersmith" cover to cover on the slight home to
> Alaska, and it was delightful, easily the best Tiffany Aching book yet.
> My wife complained that my laughter Kept her awake in the adjoining
> seat, but it's the only complaint I've heard.

> Quinn - Terry's Biggest Alaska Fan


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Terry Pratchett  
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 More options Oct 22 2006, 9:31 pm
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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:31:38 +0100
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Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition
In message <ehca4n$...@dispatch.concentric.net>, Richard Adams
<ackt...@concentric.net> writes

>In the once in a lifetime opportunity to catch Terry life he didn't
>need much prompting to go on about his recent health history.  I can
>identify with the esophogeal spasm thing as years ago I found myself on
>a gurney with stickers and wires all over my chest.  Most were puzzled
>by these extremely sharp pains which would come and go, often feeling
>like a sharp stab through the back.  A bright young physio got to the
>root of the problem by asking me how things were going.  It was stress
>related and required proper stress management.  It doesn't show up much
>anymore and if it does I know progressive muscle relaxation which stops
>it immediately.

Yep, get those occasionally, but not as often as I used to.  A spasm,
though, feels like you'd think angina would feel if you hadn't had
angina (in my experience,  spasm =hot, tight prickly pain in
the left side, usually after a heavy meal or moving about too soon after
a meal, angina= steel bands across the chest. Confusingly, glyceryl
trinitrate relieves both.

The problem with tours is the permanent jetlag, late nights, early
starts and erratic meals. In Seattle I was nearly sleepwalking, then
picked up after a day off in SF.

In any future tour, I think I'll have to stay in the US for a few days
before the first event to throw off the t/a jetlag.
--
Terry Pratchett


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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 12:41:22 +0100
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Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

"Terry Pratchett" <tpratch...@unseen.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

news:oCfOBoDaa1OFFwL1@unseen.demon.co.uk...

> In message <ehca4n$...@dispatch.concentric.net>, Richard Adams
> <ackt...@concentric.net> writes

>>In the once in a lifetime opportunity to catch Terry life he didn't need
>>much prompting to go on about his recent health history.  I can identify
>>with the esophogeal spasm thing as years ago I found myself on a gurney
>>with stickers and wires all over my chest.  Most were puzzled by these
>>extremely sharp pains which would come and go, often feeling like a sharp
>>stab through the back.  A bright young physio got to the root of the
>>problem by asking me how things were going.  It was stress related and
>>required proper stress management.  It doesn't show up much anymore and if
>>it does I know progressive muscle relaxation which stops it immediately.

> Yep, get those occasionally, but not as often as I used to.  A spasm,
> though, feels like you'd think angina would feel if you hadn't had angina
> (in my experience,  spasm =hot, tight prickly pain in
> the left side, usually after a heavy meal or moving about too soon after a
> meal, angina= steel bands across the chest. Confusingly, glyceryl
> trinitrate relieves both.

> The problem with tours is the permanent jetlag, late nights, early starts
> and erratic meals. In Seattle I was nearly sleepwalking, then picked up
> after a day off in SF.

> In any future tour, I think I'll have to stay in the US for a few days
> before the first event to throw off the t/a jetlag.

My wife and I travel between the UK and India several times a year.

We do the usual stuff,  set our watches when we get on the plane (well we
did,  last trip we bought some watches with two dials),  don't booze too
much,  plenty of food and water on the flight.

None of it seems to work.

Now we go to bed for forty-eight hours after we get to whichever end we're
heading for.

That works.

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.


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 More options Oct 22 2006, 11:35 pm
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Date: 22 Oct 2006 06:35:58 -0700
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Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

Terry Pratchett wrote:
> The problem with tours is the permanent jetlag, late nights, early
> starts and erratic meals. In Seattle I was nearly sleepwalking, then
> picked up after a day off in SF.

Would the Faculty of a certain university put up with erratic meals?

I think I've heard an argument that many small meals during the day is
actually better than breakfast, lunch, and dinner.  The key point is
"small", probably.

> In any future tour, I think I'll have to stay in the US for a few days
> before the first event to throw off the t/a jetlag.

Whatever it takes.  Hmm, did anything come of that idea of shining
bright lights behind the passenger's knees...  I may have imagined part
of that.

But then there's deep vein thrombosis, recently alleged to be
associated with poor air quality on planes, aggravated because smoking
was banned so they can turn off the air supply.  And you get less
oxygen at altitude anyway.  Well, they could maintain ground-level air
pressure but they don't.

IIRC Isaac Asimov didn't fly.  I forget if anyone ever ponied up for
his cruise liner ticket... and it sorts out the jet lag too.

Hey, next year let's /all/ go, hire a boat...

(Although some of us may be persona non grata after comments here...)


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Richard Adams  
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 More options Oct 23 2006, 12:38 am
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From: Richard Adams <ackt...@concentric.net>
Date: 22 Oct 2006 10:38:48 EDT
Local: Mon, Oct 23 2006 12:38 am
Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

Terry Pratchett wrote:
> In message <ehca4n$...@dispatch.concentric.net>, Richard Adams
> <ackt...@concentric.net> writes

>> In the once in a lifetime opportunity to catch Terry life he didn't
>> need much prompting to go on about his recent health history.  I can
>> identify with the esophogeal spasm thing as years ago I found myself
>> on a gurney with stickers and wires all over my chest.  Most were
>> puzzled by these extremely sharp pains which would come and go, often
>> feeling like a sharp stab through the back.  A bright young physio got
>> to the root of the problem by asking me how things were going.  It was
>> stress related and required proper stress management.  It doesn't show
>> up much anymore and if it does I know progressive muscle relaxation
>> which stops it immediately.

> Yep, get those occasionally, but not as often as I used to.  A spasm,
> though, feels like you'd think angina would feel if you hadn't had
> angina (in my experience,  spasm =hot, tight prickly pain in
> the left side, usually after a heavy meal or moving about too soon after
> a meal, angina= steel bands across the chest. Confusingly, glyceryl
> trinitrate relieves both.

> The problem with tours is the permanent jetlag, late nights, early
> starts and erratic meals. In Seattle I was nearly sleepwalking, then
> picked up after a day off in SF.

> In any future tour, I think I'll have to stay in the US for a few days
> before the first event to throw off the t/a jetlag.

Whenever I travel several time zones away, I book myself a hotel and
write off the first day.  No plan.  Just wander about a bit to see
what's nearby, perhaps take in a small museum or just walk about and
take in some local architecture.  Scope out prospects for meals, find a
decent spot for a tea and just lounge around reading local
magazines/newspapers.

It's important to get settled in before the rollin' up the sleeves, the
fixin' of the day's plans, the fevered scannin' o' the maps, the hoppin'
on the trains, etc.


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Arthur Hagen  
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 More options Oct 23 2006, 1:56 am
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From: "Arthur Hagen" <a...@broomstick.com>
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 11:56:25 -0400
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Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

William Black <william_bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> "Terry Pratchett" <tpratch...@unseen.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:oCfOBoDaa1OFFwL1@unseen.demon.co.uk...

>> The problem with tours is the permanent jetlag, late nights, early
>> starts and erratic meals. In Seattle I was nearly sleepwalking, then
>> picked up after a day off in SF.

>> In any future tour, I think I'll have to stay in the US for a few
>> days before the first event to throw off the t/a jetlag.

> My wife and I travel between the UK and India several times a year.

> We do the usual stuff,  set our watches when we get on the plane
> (well we did,  last trip we bought some watches with two dials), don't
> booze too much,  plenty of food and water on the flight.

> None of it seems to work.

> Now we go to bed for forty-eight hours after we get to whichever end
> we're heading for.

> That works.

Well, yeah, but taking Mrs. Black to bed for 48 hours isn't a viable option
for all of us...

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 More options Oct 23 2006, 3:20 am
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From: "William Black" <william_bl...@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 18:20:02 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 23 2006 3:20 am
Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

"Arthur Hagen" <a...@broomstick.com> wrote in message

news:ehg4b8$146$1@tree.broomstick.com...

> William Black <william_bl...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
>> "Terry Pratchett" <tpratch...@unseen.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:oCfOBoDaa1OFFwL1@unseen.demon.co.uk...

>>> The problem with tours is the permanent jetlag, late nights, early
>>> starts and erratic meals. In Seattle I was nearly sleepwalking, then
>>> picked up after a day off in SF.

>>> In any future tour, I think I'll have to stay in the US for a few
>>> days before the first event to throw off the t/a jetlag.

>> My wife and I travel between the UK and India several times a year.

>> We do the usual stuff,  set our watches when we get on the plane
>> (well we did,  last trip we bought some watches with two dials), don't
>> booze too much,  plenty of food and water on the flight.

>> None of it seems to work.

>> Now we go to bed for forty-eight hours after we get to whichever end
>> we're heading for.

>> That works.

> Well, yeah, but taking Mrs. Black to bed for 48 hours isn't a viable
> option for all of us...

You can take it from me that sex is the last thing on your mind after twenty
four hours travel,  sitting about in airports and railway stations and
eating bad food.

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time,  like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.


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From: v$af$pp...@i-m-t.demon.co.uk ("ppint. at IMT")
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:24:04 +0100 (BST)
Local: Mon, Oct 23 2006 10:24 pm
Subject: Re: [R] Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition
   - hi; in afparticle, <Kq5GrdIDFPOFF...@unseen.demon.co.uk>
                       terry surmised:

>         mollificent <harpmo...@earthlink.net> writes
[snip]
>>And I'm rather miffed to hear that some jerk, as usual, caused
>>us (the Americans of course) to look idiotic.  I've had enough of
>>tactless cretins to last me a lifetime at the moment.  Sigh.

>I'm heavily jetlagged, which must be why I'm reading afp so close
>to a book release.

        - you do this, of course, so that you can find out what you
        _really_ meant...

>For what it's worth, I didn't think there was anything wrong with
>the question; my health has been kind of public in any case, since
>it buggered up a couple of tours.  I think it was kindly meant

        - i don't know whether it's generally true, but ime merkins
        seem happy to enquire of people they've just met, how much
        they earn - but to regard enquiries as to physical health as
        prying into personal matters, unless it's friends & families:
        the reverse being true, of most british people i've met - if
        either topic has been raised.
        [most non-afper merkins i've met've been fans and/or afpers.]

        - love, ppint.
          [the address from which this was posted bounces e-mail;
           please change the "f" to a "g" and drop the "v" if you
                      wish to cc. or e-mail me.]

        pp.s. - i suppose prospective employers might also be expected
           to enquire, but i've never applied for a merkin company job.
           and merkin doctors, too. and prob'ly the dhs...
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Terry Pratchett  
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 More options Oct 23 2006, 2:49 pm
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From: Terry Pratchett <tpratch...@unseen.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 05:49:09 +0100
Local: Mon, Oct 23 2006 2:49 pm
Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition
In message <ehflcm$v9...@news.freedom2surf.net>, William Black
<william_bl...@hotmail.co.uk> writes

>My wife and I travel between the UK and India several times a year.

>We do the usual stuff,  set our watches when we get on the plane (well we
>did,  last trip we bought some watches with two dials),  don't booze too
>much,  plenty of food and water on the flight.

>None of it seems to work.

>Now we go to bed for forty-eight hours after we get to whichever end we're
>heading for.

It worked for me in Jakarta: arrive around noon, in bed by 2pm;  get up
at 9m for light supper and some bottles of water; sleep until 5pm next
day, get up to meet film crew; return to bed  until 4am, get up for
Borneo flight, feeling fine:-)

--
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 More options Oct 25 2006, 7:23 am
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From: Peter Burlingham <p...@theturtlemoves.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2006 22:23:19 +0100
Local: Wed, Oct 25 2006 7:23 am
Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

Terry Pratchett wrote:
> In message <ehflcm$v9...@news.freedom2surf.net>, William Black
> <william_bl...@hotmail.co.uk> writes

<snip>

>> Now we go to bed for forty-eight hours after we get to whichever end
>> we're
>> heading for.

> It worked for me in Jakarta: arrive around noon, in bed by 2pm;  get up
> at 9m for light supper and some bottles of water; sleep until 5pm next
> day, get up to meet film crew; return to bed  until 4am, get up for
> Borneo flight, feeling fine:-)

Yup, sleep seems to be the only thing for it.

It's a real pain though if you're on business working to a tight
schedule or on holiday and only have a short to take in the sights, but
it's one of those things - health comes first before business or pleasure...

...unless it's a bungee jumping/skydiving holiday in which case you may
as well throw yourself into it with jetlag since you're insane anyway.

--
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 More options Oct 25 2006, 11:38 am
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From: Len Oil <len...@lenoil.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 02:38:56 +0100
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Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

Robert Carnegie wrote:
> But then there's deep vein thrombosis, recently alleged to be
> associated with poor air quality on planes, aggravated because smoking
> was banned so they can turn off the air supply.  And you get less
> oxygen at altitude anyway.  Well, they could maintain ground-level air
> pressure but they don't.

I think the problem with maintaining pressure at sea-level (or linear
transitioning between pressures to be found at departure/arrival
airports) is that while sustaining this air pressure may be feasible,
there are possible long term effects upon the pressure-holding skin that
could cause fatigue, as the metal/whatever pressure skin is effectively
inflated and deflated on every flight by the pressure differentials
encountered.

IIRC, they usually make planes hold pressures of about 8,000ft, more
slowly transitioning than the external conditions would dictate as they
climb through and beyond that actual altitude.  This is supposed to be
tolerable for most people without specific problems (those who have them
would either be told not to fly by doctors or go so far as to have
arrangements made, such as the use of a supplementary oxygen supply
throughout the flight).  I think DVT fears are prompting newer planes
(latest/next Airbus?  787?) to be designed around a lower simulated
altitude, 5-6,000 I believe.

On the thrombosis front, it's more a matter of cutting down the refresh
rate, rather than cutting it off altogether, at least in examples I'm
peripherally familiar with.  Of course, it /looks/ and perhaps even
smells fresher because the smoke has gone, which probably makes it a
more stealthy immediate danger, even if less carcinogenic in the long term.


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 More options Oct 26 2006, 3:20 am
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From: Sofia <pinkmonster2000REM...@ALLCAPSyahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:20:50 +0100
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Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 05:49:09 +0100, Terry Pratchett wrote:
> It worked for me in Jakarta: arrive around noon, in bed by 2pm;  get up
> at 9m for light supper and some bottles of water; sleep until 5pm next
> day, get up to meet film crew; return to bed  until 4am, get up for
> Borneo flight, feeling fine:-)

Oh dear, I do hope you're OK for when you come back to the UK next month
at the Wessex Festival book signing at the Guildhall on November 25,
because it's between 10am-2pm and you might be feeling poorly - I know I
don't like getting up too early in the morning anyway! :-) I was
planning on taking my nephew Mark (the first ever Werthers kid) who's also
a great Pterry fan with me, but if you feel too ill to come, please let me
know to cancel, I'd hate to let him down as neither of us have ever met
you before and we're also travelling a long way down to see you (I just
know I'm going to get nausea).

Sofie

PS Please, please, please, please, after you've finished Making Money,
start your next Rincewind book instead of another Tiffany one!

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From: Alec Cawley <a...@spamspam.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:10:57 +0100
Local: Thurs, Oct 26 2006 4:10 am
Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

Len Oil wrote:
> Robert Carnegie wrote:
>> But then there's deep vein thrombosis, recently alleged to be
>> associated with poor air quality on planes, aggravated because smoking
>> was banned so they can turn off the air supply.  And you get less
>> oxygen at altitude anyway.  Well, they could maintain ground-level air
>> pressure but they don't.

> I think the problem with maintaining pressure at sea-level (or linear
> transitioning between pressures to be found at departure/arrival
> airports) is that while sustaining this air pressure may be feasible,
> there are possible long term effects upon the pressure-holding skin that
> could cause fatigue, as the metal/whatever pressure skin is effectively
> inflated and deflated on every flight by the pressure differentials
> encountered.

I think it is straight forward economy. The strength of the aircraft
hull is very carefully calculated. To take more pressure difference
while maintaining the same safety margin, the weight would have to be
increased. This would decrease both range and passenger carrying
capacity, so prices would rise. What premium would you pay for a "sea
level" flight?

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 More options Oct 26 2006, 7:33 am
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From: Sofia <pinkmonster2000REM...@ALLCAPSyahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2006 22:33:55 +0100
Local: Thurs, Oct 26 2006 7:33 am
Subject: Re: Terry Tour Report - Seattle, WA, USA Edition

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 06:35:58 -0700, Robert Carnegie wrote:

>> In any future tour, I think I'll have to stay in the US for a few days
>> before the first event to throw off the t/a jetlag.

Throwing up overboard you mean, suffering with sea sickness, swaying to
and fro on the deck with a blasting migraine and eating nasty erratic
meals, having food poison and diarrhoea all the way there, and all the
way back - umm, no thanks, I'd rather stay at home! :-))

Sofie

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