>> Apparently some bugger called Pratchett wrote a new book and everyone is >> busy reading it at present.
>> What can you do?
>Do what I do; be a tightarse and wait for the paperback...
I used to do that (unless family members bought the hardback for me at Hogswatch) but nowadays, I figure Terry could use a bit of extra money, so I buy the hardback when it comes out, then replace it with the paperback when *that* comes out.
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April Goodwin-Smith wrote: > "Lesley Weston" wrote ... >> April Goodwin-Smith wrote: >>> "Reader in Invisible Writings" wrote... >>> <snip> >>>>>> Nigel Stapley broke the whispering wind: >>>>>> [snip] >>>>>>> Bloody quiet in here, isn't it? >>> <snip> >>>> Mostly reading UA and if finished, wondering when it is >>>> appropriate to post something... >>> Grrr. I *hate* Canadian publishers. <snip> - and *when* >>> do the publishers release the new Pratchett? Tuesday, the >>> day *after* the long weekend. <snip> >>> Stupid Canadian publishers. >> At least it's an adult book [1], so it will be available on >> Tuesday [2]. <snip>
> Nope.
> Not in any bookstore in town. May the publishers all > rot in heck.
It might be worth phoning White Dwarf, if you haven't already. The Library still says it's on order, though, so perhaps it's been classified as a children's book.
> It may still be quicker and cheaper to order from the UK.
> Bah.
Bah indeed.
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> Winterbay wrote: >> Lesley Weston skrev: >>> April Goodwin-Smith wrote: >>>> "Reader in Invisible Writings" wrote... >>>> <snip> >>>>>>> Nigel Stapley broke the whispering wind: >>>>>>> [snip] >>>>>>>> Bloody quiet in here, isn't it? >>>> <snip> >>>>> Mostly reading UA and if finished, wondering when it is >>>>> appropriate to post something...
>>>> Grrr. I *hate* Canadian publishers. I have a whole three >>>> day weekend here, that I could use to read the whole new >>>> book in one go - and *when* do the publishers release the >>>> new Pratchett? Tuesday, the day *after* the long weekend.
>>>> I was lazy this year, but normally I order from the UK because >>>> (a) it is released earlier (and yes, even with the shipping time it >>>> gets here before the Canadian release date), and (b) it is often >>>> cheaper, even counting the shipping and the taxes applied as it >>>> passes through Canadian customs.
>>>> Stupid Canadian publishers.
>>>> Humph.
>>> At least it's an adult book [1], so it will be available on Tuesday >>> [2]. If it had been one of his children's books, we wouldn't be seeing >>> it for months yet. I don't know why they make this distinction.
>>> [1] Those who have already read it, please do *not* reveal whether or >>> not it deserves this dubious title.
>>> [2] For those who buy it. Me, I have to wait until 24 people have read >>> it first. Of course I could buy it, but then we would both have to >>> miss a concert to pay for it, which hardly seems fair when I only have >>> to wait 24*3/10 weeks [3].
>>> [3] There are 10 copies at the library, and I assume each person will >>> keep it for the full three weeks that VPL allows, since they usually do.
>> 10 copies??? I have to be happy if the library here gets one in 6 months >> time...
> There seem to be quite a few TP fans in Vancouver. The library are very > good about buying books and things when people ask them to, but for DW > books they don't need my prompting. What's more, TP books regularly turn > up for pay-what-you-can in the VPL sales of books that are now too > fragile to survive being on their shelves, meaning that they have been > extensively read. So I do have quite a collection.
Our county library has ordered (a) copy and I'm number three on the waiting list. Modified rapture. :-)
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> Lesley Weston wrote in > <snip> >> It might be worth phoning White Dwarf, if you haven't already. > How is phoning Games Workshop's house magazine going to help? > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Dwarf_%28magazine%29
Sadly, the Discworld novels page is a tad out of date, but Unseen Academicals is listed for October release - kinda sorta. In the October to December releases.
>"GaryN" wrote ... >> Lesley Weston wrote in >> <snip> >>> It might be worth phoning White Dwarf, if you haven't already. >> How is phoning Games Workshop's house magazine going to help? >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Dwarf_%28magazine%29
>Sadly, the Discworld novels page is a tad out of date, but >Unseen Academicals is listed for October release - kinda >sorta. In the October to December releases.
>*sigh*
>April.
I'd be surprised if the release in Canada is later than in the US and I have finished my US copy.
Well, they might give you some useful information, I guess. But White Dwarf is a Vancouver bookshop (independent even) that carries SF, Fantasy, Mystery and Vaguely Science books. The people who own it are very nice and so was their dog, Roland.
April Goodwin-Smith wrote: > "GaryN" wrote ... >> Lesley Weston wrote in >> <snip> >>> It might be worth phoning White Dwarf, if you haven't already. >> How is phoning Games Workshop's house magazine going to help? >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Dwarf_%28magazine%29
> Sadly, the Discworld novels page is a tad out of date, but > Unseen Academicals is listed for October release - kinda > sorta. In the October to December releases.
> *sigh*
Everything on that page is slightly out of date, it's part of the charm. But the shop itself is bang on target, and one of the owners got me started on DW books.
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> "April Goodwin-Smith" wrote in alt.fan.pratchett: <snip> >>Sadly, the Discworld novels page is a tad out of date, but >>Unseen Academicals is listed for October release - kinda >>sorta. In the October to December releases. > I'd be surprised if the release in Canada is later than in the > US and I have finished my US copy.
Well, I'm very happy for you, but it hasn't made it into any bookstores in town so far.
> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:09:59 -0700, "April Goodwin-Smith" ><agoodwinsm...@shaw.ca> wrote in alt.fan.pratchett:
>>"GaryN" wrote ... >>> Lesley Weston wrote in >>> <snip> >>>> It might be worth phoning White Dwarf, if you haven't already. >>> How is phoning Games Workshop's house magazine going to help? >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Dwarf_%28magazine%29
>>Sadly, the Discworld novels page is a tad out of date, but >>Unseen Academicals is listed for October release - kinda >>sorta. In the October to December releases.
>>*sigh*
>>April.
> I'd be surprised if the release in Canada is later than in the US and I > have finished my US copy.
Sadly I must confirm. The bookstore I haunt, Reflections in Fergus, has it "on order" but not on the shelf yet. Comes from living in an entrepot economy :0(
There are a few local publishers (Anansi, Coachhouse, etc) that fill domestic orders in the same timeframe as their US orders of a new release. For publishers based in the Excited States, we are an afterthought.
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>>>>> Apparently some bugger called Pratchett wrote a new book and >>>>> everyone is busy reading it at present.
>>>>> What can you do?
>>>> Do what I do; be a tightarse and wait for the paperback...
>>> Further proof: I've never bought any of Pterry's "kids' books", but >>> was toying with the idea of buying "Nation".
>>> It was half-price in Waterstone's today, so I bought it, along with >>> TFOD. Now I've just got to finish my re-reading of TSOD3.
>> Does that include the Tiffany books? Or are you just referring to >> the Bromeliad and the Johnny books?
> No, all of them.
That's a little sad... the Tiffany books far outshine many of the main series offerings, in my opinion. You're doing yourself a disservice. The Johnny books are also very good in their own ways.
Larry Moore wrote: > On 2009-10-15, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:09:59 -0700, "April Goodwin-Smith" >> <agoodwinsm...@shaw.ca> wrote in alt.fan.pratchett:
>>> "GaryN" wrote ... >>>> Lesley Weston wrote in >>>> <snip> >>>>> It might be worth phoning White Dwarf, if you haven't already. >>>> How is phoning Games Workshop's house magazine going to help? >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Dwarf_%28magazine%29
>>> Sadly, the Discworld novels page is a tad out of date, but >>> Unseen Academicals is listed for October release - kinda >>> sorta. In the October to December releases.
>>> *sigh*
>>> April. >> I'd be surprised if the release in Canada is later than in the US and I >> have finished my US copy.
> Sadly I must confirm. The bookstore I haunt, Reflections in Fergus, has it > "on order" but not on the shelf yet. Comes from living in an entrepot > economy :0(
> There are a few local publishers (Anansi, Coachhouse, etc) that fill > domestic orders in the same timeframe as their US orders of a new release. > For publishers based in the Excited States, we are an afterthought.
Though when we do finally get the books, they seem to be the UK edition rather than the US one. Something to do with not letting the bloody Colonials get ideas above their station, perhaps.
-- Lesley Weston
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> Larry Moore wrote: >> On 2009-10-15, Free Lunch <lu...@nofreelunch.us> wrote: >>> On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:09:59 -0700, "April Goodwin-Smith" >>> <agoodwinsm...@shaw.ca> wrote in alt.fan.pratchett:
>>>> "GaryN" wrote ... >>>>> Lesley Weston wrote in >>>>> <snip> >>>>>> It might be worth phoning White Dwarf, if you haven't already. >>>>> How is phoning Games Workshop's house magazine going to help? >>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Dwarf_%28magazine%29
>>>> Sadly, the Discworld novels page is a tad out of date, but >>>> Unseen Academicals is listed for October release - kinda >>>> sorta. In the October to December releases.
>>>> *sigh*
>>>> April. >>> I'd be surprised if the release in Canada is later than in the US and I >>> have finished my US copy.
>> Sadly I must confirm. The bookstore I haunt, Reflections in Fergus, has it >> "on order" but not on the shelf yet. Comes from living in an entrepot >> economy :0(
>> There are a few local publishers (Anansi, Coachhouse, etc) that fill >> domestic orders in the same timeframe as their US orders of a new release. >> For publishers based in the Excited States, we are an afterthought.
> Though when we do finally get the books, they seem to be the UK edition > rather than the US one. Something to do with not letting the bloody > Colonials get ideas above their station, perhaps.
I have an Embarrassment. Four days agom 'The Evolution of God'; two days ago 'Mothers and Others' by Hrdy; today (ordered in June,) UA by PTerry arrived at the bookstores I use.
I loaned 'the Evolution' to our Mennonite librarian for review (her voice has weight with the library aquisitions committee,) and I shall try to read the others as bedtime books.
This copy of UA is the Doubleday British edition - librarian with ball on back cover - backed by team on front cover. I think it's the only UK edition I have.
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Lesley Weston wrote: > Though when we do finally get the books, they seem to be the UK edition > rather than the US one. Something to do with not letting the bloody > Colonials get ideas above their station, perhaps.
It's those extra U's.
-Ferd Burfle -- Poop, once slung, can never be unslung. Given enough time, it will decorate the slinger.
>> Though when we do finally get the books, they seem to be the UK >> edition rather than the US one. Something to do with not letting the >> bloody Colonials get ideas above their station, perhaps.
> It's those extra U's.
But the extra ink is well wasted, if only on annoying everybody else. And we waste less ink (or breath) on saying "You can come out now" instead of "We are in a coming out from under the table situation as of this moment in time". What /was/ that movie? I have an image of Denholm Elliott saying the line as a well-mannered diplomat who is, of course, fluent in all languages, but I can't remember anything else about it.
-- Lesley Weston
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Nigel Stapley <u...@judgemental.plus.com> wrote: > Daniel Orner wrote: > > Nigel Stapley wrote: > >> Further proof: I've never bought any of Pterry's "kids' books", but > > Does that include the Tiffany books? Or are you just referring to > > the Bromeliad and the Johnny books?
> No, all of them.
Then I suggest you do buy the Tiffany books. They're really only honorary children's books - all the usual Pratchett hallmarks, but without the dark edges of, say, MR.
> "Free Lunch" wrote ... >> "April Goodwin-Smith" wrote in alt.fan.pratchett: > <snip> >>>Sadly, the Discworld novels page is a tad out of date, but >>>Unseen Academicals is listed for October release - kinda >>>sorta. In the October to December releases. >> I'd be surprised if the release in Canada is later than in the >> US and I have finished my US copy. > Well, I'm very happy for you, but it hasn't made it into any > bookstores in town so far.
Apparently not a single bookstore in Vancouver actually stocked the book. If I placed an order with a local book store, it would be minimum three weeks and $39.95 - before taxes.
I have just ordered it from the UK. We will see how much longer and how much more expensive it will be. I have handicapped the UK delivery by selecting the el cheapo delivery method - minimum 14 days before it even gets as far as Canada Customs.
April Goodwin-Smith wrote: > "April Goodwin-Smith" wrote ... >> "Free Lunch" wrote ... >>> "April Goodwin-Smith" wrote in alt.fan.pratchett: >> <snip> >>>> Sadly, the Discworld novels page is a tad out of date, but >>>> Unseen Academicals is listed for October release - kinda >>>> sorta. In the October to December releases. >>> I'd be surprised if the release in Canada is later than in the >>> US and I have finished my US copy. >> Well, I'm very happy for you, but it hasn't made it into any >> bookstores in town so far.
> Apparently not a single bookstore in Vancouver actually > stocked the book. If I placed an order with a local book > store, it would be minimum three weeks and $39.95 - > before taxes.
> I have just ordered it from the UK. We will see how much > longer and how much more expensive it will be. I have > handicapped the UK delivery by selecting the el cheapo > delivery method - minimum 14 days before it even gets > as far as Canada Customs.
I find buying used books from the States is easier and quicker than buying them from the UK, and usually cheaper too - I don't know about newly-released ones. Amazon.com won't sell books to Canada because of the existence of Amazon.ca, but there must be other US stores. And Chapters claim to have it in stock at $23.09 plus taxes and shipping, but there's no duty.
Meanwhile, the library still says it's ON ORDER; I can see why they feel the need to shout it.
-- Lesley Weston
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> April Goodwin-Smith wrote: <snip> >> Apparently not a single bookstore in Vancouver actually >> stocked the book. <snip> I have just ordered it from the >> UK.
<snip>
> I find buying used books from the States is easier and quicker > than buying them from the UK, and usually cheaper too
I want the UK cover and printing and word choice. :)
<snip> And Chapters claim to have it in stock at $23.09 plus taxes
> and shipping, but there's no duty.
Chapters.ca claims to have it, to, but when I check the local stores, the number of copies for each outlet is listed as 0. Huh.
> Meanwhile, the library still says it's ON ORDER; I can see why > they feel the need to shout it.
From what I gathered from the bookstore I consulted, the person who orders things for the area warehouse where the bookstores then place their orders decided not to stock this book. So, the bookstore has to place an order with that person, who then will place an order with the publisher. *Who* is publishing Pratchett for Canada? I don't know, but I do know they haven't got their PR machine engaged for it.
April Goodwin-Smith wrote: > "Lesley Weston" wrote ... >> April Goodwin-Smith wrote: > <snip> >>> Apparently not a single bookstore in Vancouver actually >>> stocked the book. <snip> I have just ordered it from the >>> UK. > <snip>
>> I find buying used books from the States is easier and quicker >> than buying them from the UK, and usually cheaper too
> I want the UK cover and printing and word choice. :)
> <snip> And Chapters claim to have it in stock at $23.09 plus taxes >> and shipping, but there's no duty.
> Chapters.ca claims to have it, to, but when I check the local stores, > the number of copies for each outlet is listed as 0. Huh.
>> Meanwhile, the library still says it's ON ORDER; I can see why >> they feel the need to shout it.
> From what I gathered from the bookstore I consulted, the person > who orders things for the area warehouse where the bookstores > then place their orders decided not to stock this book. So, the > bookstore has to place an order with that person, who then will > place an order with the publisher. *Who* is publishing Pratchett > for Canada? I don't know, but I do know they haven't got their > PR machine engaged for it.
> Pah. Bah. Hah.
That seems crazy. The latest from the second biggest seller in the UK just has to be a desirable item in any English-speaking country. One hopes that whoever is responsible will be missing their Hogswatch bonus.
-- Lesley Weston
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> "April Goodwin-Smith" wrote ... <snip> > Apparently not a single bookstore in Vancouver actually > stocked the book. If I placed an order with a local book > store, it would be minimum three weeks and $39.95 - > before taxes.
> I have just ordered it from the UK. We will see how much > longer and how much more expensive it will be. I have > handicapped the UK delivery by selecting the el cheapo > delivery method - minimum 14 days before it even gets > as far as Canada Customs.
That was on Saturday 24 October 2009, and it is now Tuesday 03 November 2009, and the book was waiting outside my apartment door[1] this evening.
So that was 10 days, and 17.98 pounds (which was 8.00 pounds of shipping) [2], which will probably work out to around (X 1.74924) $34.64 Canadian.
I think this compares favourably with three weeks and $39.95 plus 12% sales tax, or $44.75 Canadian.
I was just going to check the Chapters website again to see if they have received the book in any of their stores yet, but the website has become so frilly with dross that it hasn't even loaded yet. Bah. Actually, according to the info bar below, it has become infested with recursive google double-click ads, so that's enough of that. Order books from the UK it is.
April.
[1] - this leaving of mail outside my apartment door in the hallway of my apartment does not recommend itself to me, since, I regret to say, there are bona fide thieves in this building, but this once seems to have been okay.
[2] - I was fortunate that customs did not feel it necessary to charge taxes & duties & service charges etc.
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