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OK, I have just finished reading UA and I'm a bit puzzled about things, oh and if you have not read it and have still got here - look away now please.
Firstly, I'm OK with the re-invention of football as the previous examples have been of unlimited sides and more injuries than scoring. Particularly J! springs to mind (although 'a football rolling away' is mentioned in LL as an example of how 'un-flat' Lancre is). The confusion is that the inflatable ball (round not oval) delivered by the Cabinet of Curiosities is not dissimilar to the one Carrot has which Vimes gave him "$5 to buy a football which proves he cares deep down." and later "Carrot ran up, bouncing his football." and he further reveals "Oh, these days I carry a deflated one in my pack". This is very dissimilar to the lump of Ash wrapped in rags that the 'professionals' play with and whilst I have no problem with the change for the beautiful game, the getting it made seemed odd in the above context.
Secondly, the story seemed a bit 'boiler plated' together and lacked the normal flow. Probably on a second reading it won't seem like it.
Thirdly, a small point. Towards the end when Nutts is given his mission it is said that Pastor Oats will pass on the 'rate of forgiveness' rate? have I missed a meaning or is it rite? But if forgiveness is the double headed axe passing neither rate or rite make sense to me.
Still not a bad book but not in my must re-read straight away class.
-- Reader in Invisible Writings.. Something to Ponder upon!
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> OK, I have just finished reading UA and I'm a bit puzzled about things, oh > and if you have not read it and have still got here - look away now > please.
> Firstly, I'm OK with the re-invention of football as the previous examples > have been of unlimited sides and more injuries than scoring. Particularly > J! springs to mind (although 'a football rolling away' is mentioned in LL > as an example of how 'un-flat' Lancre is). The confusion is that the > inflatable ball (round not oval) delivered by the Cabinet of Curiosities > is not dissimilar to the one Carrot has which Vimes gave him "$5 to buy a > football which proves he cares deep down." and later "Carrot ran up, > bouncing his football." and he further reveals "Oh, these days I carry a > deflated one in my pack". This is very dissimilar to the lump of Ash > wrapped in rags that the 'professionals' play with and whilst I have no > problem with the change for the beautiful game, the getting it made seemed > odd in the above context.
I am pretty sure that the throwaway line(s) about a deflated ball in Carrots pack were sacrificed for the sake of a full novel.
They were out there, but Pratchett decided not to say "Oh, bother, I have referred to inflatable balls before, can't write this fully developed novel. Pity." And I feel that a History Monks/Trousers of Time explanation is too pat.
We know that in over 30 novels, sometimes there are little loose ends like this. It just happens. Fifteen novels or however many ago, Pratchett didn't know he was going to be writing about the reinvention of footie, so there was a brief reference to a type of ball.
Inconveniently, it's still there now, but trying to sweep it under the rug would just call attention to it.
-- Stacie, fourth swordswoman of the afpocalypse. AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons & Bondage-happy predator AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion "If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible warning."
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> > OK, I have just finished reading UA and I'm a bit puzzled about things, oh > > and if you have not read it and have still got here - look away now > > please.
> > Firstly, I'm OK with the re-invention of football as the previous examples > > have been of unlimited sides and more injuries than scoring. Particularly > > J! springs to mind (although 'a football rolling away' is mentioned in LL > > as an example of how 'un-flat' Lancre is). The confusion is that the > > inflatable ball (round not oval) delivered by the Cabinet of Curiosities > > is not dissimilar to the one Carrot has which Vimes gave him "$5 to buy a > > football which proves he cares deep down." and later "Carrot ran up, > > bouncing his football." and he further reveals "Oh, these days I carry a > > deflated one in my pack". This is very dissimilar to the lump of Ash > > wrapped in rags that the 'professionals' play with and whilst I have no > > problem with the change for the beautiful game, the getting it made seemed > > odd in the above context.
> I am pretty sure that the throwaway line(s) about a deflated ball in Carrots > pack were sacrificed for the sake of a full novel.
> They were out there, but Pratchett decided not to say "Oh, bother, I have > referred to inflatable balls before, can't write this fully developed novel. > Pity." And I feel that a History Monks/Trousers of Time explanation is too > pat.
> We know that in over 30 novels, sometimes there are little loose ends like > this. It just happens. Fifteen novels or however many ago, Pratchett didn't > know he was going to be writing about the reinvention of footie, so there > was a brief reference to a type of ball.
I never thought there was a problem. It isn't like the wizards got out much. There might be inflatable balls being used by some where the main game the adults played ignored it. Carrot might have ben trying to use a safer ball with the streetkids.
> Inconveniently, it's still there now, but trying to sweep it under the rug > would just call attention to it.
> -- > Stacie, fourth swordswoman of the afpocalypse. > AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons & Bondage-happy predator > AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion > "If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible warning."
By the way how is nut's race's name spelled? When hearing it on audio i wasn't able to tell his race from what the bird women said.
-- Richard The Blind Typer. Lets hear it for talking computers. Lets go for talking i-pods!
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>>> OK, I have just finished reading UA and I'm a bit puzzled about things, oh >>> and if you have not read it and have still got here - look away now >>> please.
>>> Firstly, I'm OK with the re-invention of football as the previous examples >>> have been of unlimited sides and more injuries than scoring. Particularly >>> J! springs to mind (although 'a football rolling away' is mentioned in LL >>> as an example of how 'un-flat' Lancre is). The confusion is that the >>> inflatable ball (round not oval) delivered by the Cabinet of Curiosities >>> is not dissimilar to the one Carrot has which Vimes gave him "$5 to buy a >>> football which proves he cares deep down." and later "Carrot ran up, >>> bouncing his football." and he further reveals "Oh, these days I carry a >>> deflated one in my pack". This is very dissimilar to the lump of Ash >>> wrapped in rags that the 'professionals' play with and whilst I have no >>> problem with the change for the beautiful game, the getting it made seemed >>> odd in the above context. >> I am pretty sure that the throwaway line(s) about a deflated ball in Carrots >> pack were sacrificed for the sake of a full novel.
>> They were out there, but Pratchett decided not to say "Oh, bother, I have >> referred to inflatable balls before, can't write this fully developed novel. >> Pity." And I feel that a History Monks/Trousers of Time explanation is too >> pat.
>> We know that in over 30 novels, sometimes there are little loose ends like >> this. It just happens. Fifteen novels or however many ago, Pratchett didn't >> know he was going to be writing about the reinvention of footie, so there >> was a brief reference to a type of ball.
> I never thought there was a problem. It isn't like the wizards got out much. > There might be inflatable balls being used by some where the main game the > adults played ignored it. Carrot might have ben trying to use a safer ball with > the streetkids.
>> Inconveniently, it's still there now, but trying to sweep it under the rug >> would just call attention to it.
>> -- >> Stacie, fourth swordswoman of the afpocalypse. >> AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons & Bondage-happy predator >> AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion >> "If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible warning."
> By the way how is nut's race's name spelled? > When hearing it on audio i wasn't able to tell his race from what the bird women > said.
> -- > Richard The Blind Typer. > Lets hear it for talking computers. > Lets go for talking i-pods!
N, U, double T.
That seems to be his only name. I hope we hear more of him and Glenda.
Please don't be offended, but do you have any suggestions as to how best we can type in messages and answers to you so that they are easily understandable?
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>>>> OK, I have just finished reading UA and I'm a bit puzzled about >>>> things, oh >>>> and if you have not read it and have still got here - look away now >>>> please.
>>>> Firstly, I'm OK with the re-invention of football as the previous >>>> examples >>>> have been of unlimited sides and more injuries than scoring. >>>> Particularly >>>> J! springs to mind (although 'a football rolling away' is mentioned >>>> in LL >>>> as an example of how 'un-flat' Lancre is). The confusion is that the >>>> inflatable ball (round not oval) delivered by the Cabinet of >>>> Curiosities >>>> is not dissimilar to the one Carrot has which Vimes gave him "$5 to >>>> buy a >>>> football which proves he cares deep down." and later "Carrot ran up, >>>> bouncing his football." and he further reveals "Oh, these days I >>>> carry a >>>> deflated one in my pack". This is very dissimilar to the lump of Ash >>>> wrapped in rags that the 'professionals' play with and whilst I have no >>>> problem with the change for the beautiful game, the getting it made >>>> seemed >>>> odd in the above context. >>> I am pretty sure that the throwaway line(s) about a deflated ball in >>> Carrots >>> pack were sacrificed for the sake of a full novel.
>>> They were out there, but Pratchett decided not to say "Oh, bother, I >>> have >>> referred to inflatable balls before, can't write this fully developed >>> novel. >>> Pity." And I feel that a History Monks/Trousers of Time explanation >>> is too >>> pat.
>>> We know that in over 30 novels, sometimes there are little loose ends >>> like >>> this. It just happens. Fifteen novels or however many ago, Pratchett >>> didn't >>> know he was going to be writing about the reinvention of footie, so >>> there >>> was a brief reference to a type of ball.
>> I never thought there was a problem. It isn't like the wizards got >> out much. >> There might be inflatable balls being used by some where the main game >> the >> adults played ignored it. Carrot might have ben trying to use a safer >> ball with >> the streetkids.
>>> Inconveniently, it's still there now, but trying to sweep it under >>> the rug >>> would just call attention to it.
>>> -- >>> Stacie, fourth swordswoman of the afpocalypse. >>> AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons & Bondage-happy predator >>> AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion >>> "If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible >>> warning."
>> By the way how is nut's race's name spelled? >> When hearing it on audio i wasn't able to tell his race from what the >> bird women >> said.
>> -- >> Richard The Blind Typer. >> Lets hear it for talking computers. >> Lets go for talking i-pods!
> N, U, double T.
> That seems to be his only name. I hope we hear more of him and Glenda.
> Please don't be offended, but do you have any suggestions as to how best > we can type in messages and answers to you so that they are easily > understandable?
The Race is spelt ORC but the Furries cry AWK!
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> >>>> OK, I have just finished reading UA and I'm a bit puzzled about > >>>> things, oh > >>>> and if you have not read it and have still got here - look away now > >>>> please.
> >>>> Firstly, I'm OK with the re-invention of football as the previous > >>>> examples > >>>> have been of unlimited sides and more injuries than scoring. > >>>> Particularly > >>>> J! springs to mind (although 'a football rolling away' is mentioned > >>>> in LL > >>>> as an example of how 'un-flat' Lancre is). The confusion is that the > >>>> inflatable ball (round not oval) delivered by the Cabinet of > >>>> Curiosities > >>>> is not dissimilar to the one Carrot has which Vimes gave him "$5 to > >>>> buy a > >>>> football which proves he cares deep down." and later "Carrot ran up, > >>>> bouncing his football." and he further reveals "Oh, these days I > >>>> carry a > >>>> deflated one in my pack". This is very dissimilar to the lump of Ash > >>>> wrapped in rags that the 'professionals' play with and whilst I have no > >>>> problem with the change for the beautiful game, the getting it made > >>>> seemed > >>>> odd in the above context. > >>> I am pretty sure that the throwaway line(s) about a deflated ball in > >>> Carrots > >>> pack were sacrificed for the sake of a full novel.
> >>> They were out there, but Pratchett decided not to say "Oh, bother, I > >>> have > >>> referred to inflatable balls before, can't write this fully developed > >>> novel. > >>> Pity." And I feel that a History Monks/Trousers of Time explanation > >>> is too > >>> pat.
> >>> We know that in over 30 novels, sometimes there are little loose ends > >>> like > >>> this. It just happens. Fifteen novels or however many ago, Pratchett > >>> didn't > >>> know he was going to be writing about the reinvention of footie, so > >>> there > >>> was a brief reference to a type of ball.
> >> I never thought there was a problem. It isn't like the wizards got > >> out much. > >> There might be inflatable balls being used by some where the main game > >> the > >> adults played ignored it. Carrot might have ben trying to use a safer > >> ball with > >> the streetkids.
> >>> Inconveniently, it's still there now, but trying to sweep it under > >>> the rug > >>> would just call attention to it.
> >>> -- > >>> Stacie, fourth swordswoman of the afpocalypse. > >>> AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons & Bondage-happy predator > >>> AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion > >>> "If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible > >>> warning."
> >> By the way how is nut's race's name spelled? > >> When hearing it on audio i wasn't able to tell his race from what the > >> bird women > >> said.
> >> -- > >> Richard The Blind Typer. > >> Lets hear it for talking computers. > >> Lets go for talking i-pods!
> > N, U, double T.
> > That seems to be his only name. I hope we hear more of him and Glenda.
> > Please don't be offended, but do you have any suggestions as to how best > > we can type in messages and answers to you so that they are easily > > understandable?
> The Race is spelt ORC but the Furries cry AWK!
> -- > Reader in Invisible Writings.. Something to Ponder upon!
Thanks. It is just that on the autio copy I got its hard to tell.
-- Richard The Blind Typer. Lets hear it for talking computers. Lets go for talking i-pods!
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> >>> OK, I have just finished reading UA and I'm a bit puzzled about things, oh > >>> and if you have not read it and have still got here - look away now > >>> please.
> >>> Firstly, I'm OK with the re-invention of football as the previous examples > >>> have been of unlimited sides and more injuries than scoring. Particularly > >>> J! springs to mind (although 'a football rolling away' is mentioned in LL > >>> as an example of how 'un-flat' Lancre is). The confusion is that the > >>> inflatable ball (round not oval) delivered by the Cabinet of Curiosities > >>> is not dissimilar to the one Carrot has which Vimes gave him "$5 to buy a > >>> football which proves he cares deep down." and later "Carrot ran up, > >>> bouncing his football." and he further reveals "Oh, these days I carry a > >>> deflated one in my pack". This is very dissimilar to the lump of Ash > >>> wrapped in rags that the 'professionals' play with and whilst I have no > >>> problem with the change for the beautiful game, the getting it made seemed > >>> odd in the above context. > >> I am pretty sure that the throwaway line(s) about a deflated ball in Carrots > >> pack were sacrificed for the sake of a full novel.
> >> They were out there, but Pratchett decided not to say "Oh, bother, I have > >> referred to inflatable balls before, can't write this fully developed novel. > >> Pity." And I feel that a History Monks/Trousers of Time explanation is too > >> pat.
> >> We know that in over 30 novels, sometimes there are little loose ends like > >> this. It just happens. Fifteen novels or however many ago, Pratchett didn't > >> know he was going to be writing about the reinvention of footie, so there > >> was a brief reference to a type of ball.
> > I never thought there was a problem. It isn't like the wizards got out much. > > There might be inflatable balls being used by some where the main game the > > adults played ignored it. Carrot might have ben trying to use a safer ball with > > the streetkids.
> >> Inconveniently, it's still there now, but trying to sweep it under the rug > >> would just call attention to it.
> >> -- > >> Stacie, fourth swordswoman of the afpocalypse. > >> AFPMinister of Flexible Weapons & Bondage-happy predator > >> AFPMistress to peachy ashie passion > >> "If you can't be a good example, you'll just have to be a horrible warning."
> > By the way how is nut's race's name spelled? > > When hearing it on audio i wasn't able to tell his race from what the bird women > > said.
> > -- > > Richard The Blind Typer. > > Lets hear it for talking computers. > > Lets go for talking i-pods!
> N, U, double T.
> That seems to be his only name. I hope we hear more of him and Glenda.
> Please don't be offended, but do you have any suggestions as to how best > we can type in messages and answers to you so that they are easily > understandable?
> -- > Regards, Alex
Your question doesn't bother me at all. I know how diffrent screen readser botch fairly normal words. In fact some of my misspellings are do to my writing so It say things right then messing up by bad typing or bad spelling. It also doesn't help that I had prossessings disorders which makes me a very bad speller to begin with. How you Spelled out Nutt's name work very well. I was asking about his races name which another person put down as Orc. I was able to find out who that was writen by going into edit mode. The one space between each leter makes it so I just have the computer read the letter and move on or anser. But Either way lets me look for the anser. As to which words my screen reader botches, it is to long and I do have a way to edit how it says something. Some times the problem is easy. With hourglass it says it like herglass. I have the edit feature which lets me tell it to say hourglass like hour glass. I don't have to change things in every word. The screen reader know to change the word from then on. How ever there are words which no matter how I respell them in the word sound editor, they never sound right. I found out that lady godiva never sounds right. Even doing it in the sound editor as lady go-dive-a doesn't work. surprisingly there are many normal words which the system messes up. You have to get use to some and correct the editor as you go. However, it does make it so I can send e-mails without help. So I am rather glade to have it. I also don't have the most current screen reader as I am working on a book and don't want to have to redo all the entries I have made. I normaly do when I upgrade the screen reader. I think I got off track. However, be sure I will ask any time I don't understand what someone says. So far I find most people are willing to explain. Oh, sure there are trolls, but I just kill file them and move on when I realize they only want to cause problems.
-- Richard The Blind Typer. Lets hear it for talking computers. Lets go for talking i-pods!
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Possibly, but they can easily be explained away by the full-on Game being played with more authentic, hard-man equipment than the low-tech schoolboy game Carrot is having his boys play. Somewhat like kendo using wooden swords, as opposed to both real katana _and_ wooden sticks; or, perhaps, like softball is to both USAnian Rounders and to squishy foam balls. At this point I'd like to point out that the New Ball _is_ a rather high-tech one. It may not sound like it by now, but the hexagon-and- pentagon ball described in the book is not all that old. It was devised for one of the official championships - IIRC a World C. sometime in the 1960s. Before that, the leather monster looked rather different, and was much more prone to getting lumpy or otherwise degrading. In fact, for a long time it looked much like the one on the dust jacket, which is _not_ the one described in the book. Perhaps that's the kind which Carrot carries with him, or possibly it's even simpler, but it almost certainly is not the truncated icosahedron one.
> > >> By the way how is nut's race's name spelled? > > >> When hearing it on audio i wasn't able to tell his race from what the > > >> bird women said. > > The Race is spelt ORC but the Furries cry AWK! > Thanks. It is just that on the autio copy I got its hard to tell.
That, I think, was rather the point: the Furies (_not_ Furries, btw; that's an entirely more scary kind of creature) shout "awk" like, say, a gull or raven does - and this is reasonable and can be unsuspicious in circumstances where it should be, because they are bird-women. At the same time, they also exclaim "orc!" to warn the innocent bystanders when they have to.
Richard Bos wrote: > richard e white <chiph...@cox.net> wrote:
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>>>>>> I am pretty sure that the throwaway line(s) about a deflated ball in Carrots >>>>>> pack were sacrificed for the sake of a full novel.
> Possibly, but they can easily be explained away by the full-on Game > being played with more authentic, hard-man equipment than the low-tech > schoolboy game Carrot is having his boys play. Somewhat like kendo using > wooden swords, as opposed to both real katana _and_ wooden sticks; or, > perhaps, like softball is to both USAnian Rounders and to squishy foam > balls. > At this point I'd like to point out that the New Ball _is_ a rather > high-tech one. It may not sound like it by now, but the hexagon-and- > pentagon ball described in the book is not all that old. It was devised > for one of the official championships - IIRC a World C. sometime in the > 1960s. Before that, the leather monster looked rather different, and was > much more prone to getting lumpy or otherwise degrading. In fact, for a > long time it looked much like the one on the dust jacket, which is _not_ > the one described in the book. Perhaps that's the kind which Carrot > carries with him, or possibly it's even simpler, but it almost certainly > is not the truncated icosahedron one.
>>>>> By the way how is nut's race's name spelled? >>>>> When hearing it on audio i wasn't able to tell his race from what the >>>>> bird women said.
>>> The Race is spelt ORC but the Furries cry AWK!
>> Thanks. It is just that on the autio copy I got its hard to tell.
> That, I think, was rather the point: the Furies (_not_ Furries, btw;
Sorry - my mild dyslexia and lack of a copy to hand...
> that's an entirely more scary kind of creature) shout "awk" like, say, a > gull or raven does - and this is reasonable and can be unsuspicious in > circumstances where it should be, because they are bird-women. At the > same time, they also exclaim "orc!" to warn the innocent bystanders when > they have to.
> Richard
In another related thread, I accepted - now quite happily - that the ball described is (as required from the Cabinet of Curiosities) is a perfect ball for the beautiful game, compared to the merely inflatable ball used by Carrot. (Carrot's can be inflated enough to bounce - but does it go Goinng?) I did make the mistake of suggesting that there were only really three ways of making a ball, but later on the train I realised I was wrong and I was expecting to find my mistake outed, but no.
So ways to make a ball
1. Carve or mould a solid lump. Bowls, Cannon, Snooker etc. 2. Layer up over a core. Cricket, Golf, The Game etc. 3. Inflate a shell. Football, Rugby, Basketball etc. 4. Mould a shell. Tennis, Table Tennis
Any more ways? Anyone?
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>>>>>>>> Firstly, I'm OK with the re-invention of football as the previous examples >>>>>>>> have been of unlimited sides and more injuries than scoring. Particularly >>>>>>>> J! springs to mind (although 'a football rolling away' is mentioned in LL >>>>>>>> as an example of how 'un-flat' Lancre is). The confusion is that the >>>>>>>> inflatable ball (round not oval) delivered by the Cabinet of Curiosities >>>>>>>> is not dissimilar to the one Carrot has which Vimes gave him "$5 to buy a >>>>>>>> football which proves he cares deep down." and later "Carrot ran up, >>>>>>>> bouncing his football." and he further reveals "Oh, these days I carry a >>>>>>>> deflated one in my pack". This is very dissimilar to the lump of Ash >>>>>>>> wrapped in rags that the 'professionals' play with and whilst I have no >>>>>>>> problem with the change for the beautiful game, the getting it made seemed >>>>>>>> odd in the above context.
>>>>>>> I am pretty sure that the throwaway line(s) about a deflated ball in Carrots >>>>>>> pack were sacrificed for the sake of a full novel.
>> Possibly, but they can easily be explained away by the full-on Game >> being played with more authentic, hard-man equipment than the low-tech >> schoolboy game Carrot is having his boys play. Somewhat like kendo using >> wooden swords, as opposed to both real katana _and_ wooden sticks; or, >> perhaps, like softball is to both USAnian Rounders and to squishy foam >> balls. >> At this point I'd like to point out that the New Ball _is_ a rather >> high-tech one. It may not sound like it by now, but the hexagon-and- >> pentagon ball described in the book is not all that old. It was devised >> for one of the official championships - IIRC a World C. sometime in the >> 1960s. Before that, the leather monster looked rather different, and was >> much more prone to getting lumpy or otherwise degrading. In fact, for a >> long time it looked much like the one on the dust jacket, which is _not_ >> the one described in the book. Perhaps that's the kind which Carrot >> carries with him, or possibly it's even simpler, but it almost certainly >> is not the truncated icosahedron one.
>>>>>> By the way how is nut's race's name spelled? >>>>>> When hearing it on audio i wasn't able to tell his race from what the >>>>>> bird women said.
>>>> The Race is spelt ORC but the Furries cry AWK!
>>> Thanks. It is just that on the autio copy I got its hard to tell.
>> That, I think, was rather the point: the Furies (_not_ Furries, btw; >Sorry - my mild dyslexia and lack of a copy to hand... >> that's an entirely more scary kind of creature) shout "awk" like, say, a >> gull or raven does - and this is reasonable and can be unsuspicious in >> circumstances where it should be, because they are bird-women. At the >> same time, they also exclaim "orc!" to warn the innocent bystanders when >> they have to.
>> Richard >In another related thread, I accepted - now quite happily - that the >ball described is (as required from the Cabinet of Curiosities) is a >perfect ball for the beautiful game, compared to the merely inflatable >ball used by Carrot. (Carrot's can be inflated enough to bounce - but >does it go Goinng?) >I did make the mistake of suggesting that there were only really three >ways of making a ball, but later on the train I realised I was wrong and >I was expecting to find my mistake outed, but no.
>So ways to make a ball
>1. Carve or mould a solid lump. Bowls, Cannon, Snooker etc. >2. Layer up over a core. Cricket, Golf, The Game etc. >3. Inflate a shell. Football, Rugby, Basketball etc. >4. Mould a shell. Tennis, Table Tennis
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>>>>>>>>> E >>>>>>>>> Firstly, I'm OK with the re-invention of football as the previous examples >>>>>>>>> have been of unlimited sides and more injuries than scoring. Particularly >>>>>>>>> J! springs to mind (although 'a football rolling away' is mentioned in LL >>>>>>>>> as an example of how 'un-flat' Lancre is). The confusion is that the >>>>>>>>> inflatable ball (round not oval) delivered by the Cabinet of Curiosities >>>>>>>>> is not dissimilar to the one Carrot has which Vimes gave him "$5 to buy a >>>>>>>>> football which proves he cares deep down." and later "Carrot ran up, >>>>>>>>> bouncing his football." and he further reveals "Oh, these days I carry a >>>>>>>>> deflated one in my pack". This is very dissimilar to the lump of Ash >>>>>>>>> wrapped in rags that the 'professionals' play with and whilst I have no >>>>>>>>> problem with the change for the beautiful game, the getting it made seemed >>>>>>>>> odd in the above context. >>>>>>>> I am pretty sure that the throwaway line(s) about a deflated ball in Carrots >>>>>>>> pack were sacrificed for the sake of a full novel. >>> Possibly, but they can easily be explained away by the full-on Game >>> being played with more authentic, hard-man equipment than the low-tech >>> schoolboy game Carrot is having his boys play. Somewhat like kendo using >>> wooden swords, as opposed to both real katana _and_ wooden sticks; or, >>> perhaps, like softball is to both USAnian Rounders and to squishy foam >>> balls. >>> At this point I'd like to point out that the New Ball _is_ a rather >>> high-tech one. It may not sound like it by now, but the hexagon-and- >>> pentagon ball described in the book is not all that old. It was devised >>> for one of the official championships - IIRC a World C. sometime in the >>> 1960s. Before that, the leather monster looked rather different, and was >>> much more prone to getting lumpy or otherwise degrading. In fact, for a >>> long time it looked much like the one on the dust jacket, which is _not_ >>> the one described in the book. Perhaps that's the kind which Carrot >>> carries with him, or possibly it's even simpler, but it almost certainly >>> is not the truncated icosahedron one.
>>>>>>> By the way how is nut's race's name spelled? >>>>>>> When hearing it on audio i wasn't able to tell his race from what the >>>>>>> bird women said. >>>>> The Race is spelt ORC but the Furries cry AWK! >>>> Thanks. It is just that on the autio copy I got its hard to tell. >>> That, I think, was rather the point: the Furies (_not_ Furries, btw; >> Sorry - my mild dyslexia and lack of a copy to hand... >>> that's an entirely more scary kind of creature) shout "awk" like, say, a >>> gull or raven does - and this is reasonable and can be unsuspicious in >>> circumstances where it should be, because they are bird-women. At the >>> same time, they also exclaim "orc!" to warn the innocent bystanders when >>> they have to.
>>> Richard >> In another related thread, I accepted - now quite happily - that the >> ball described is (as required from the Cabinet of Curiosities) is a >> perfect ball for the beautiful game, compared to the merely inflatable >> ball used by Carrot. (Carrot's can be inflated enough to bounce - but >> does it go Goinng?) >> I did make the mistake of suggesting that there were only really three >> ways of making a ball, but later on the train I realised I was wrong and >> I was expecting to find my mistake outed, but no.
>> So ways to make a ball
>> 1. Carve or mould a solid lump. Bowls, Cannon, Snooker etc. >> 2. Layer up over a core. Cricket, Golf, The Game etc. >> 3. Inflate a shell. Football, Rugby, Basketball etc. >> 4. Mould a shell. Tennis, Table Tennis
>> Any more ways? Anyone?
> Sure. Chop off someone's head. Stick it in a bag.
OK, I would take that as type 2, but I had forgotten the possibility of a 'naturally occurring' core.
>Whack it about with > mallets while on horseback.
I made no mention of how you play with your balls ;-) Though some types lend themselves more to certain activities ;-) You would not wish to try basket ball with a bowling ball for instance. O:-)
Hey have I invented new smiley? O:-) (Angel = innocent) and what about ]:-D (Devil = miscevious)
> -Chris Zakes > Texas > Even a man who is pure in heart > And says his prayers at night > May become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms > And the autumn moon is bright.
-- Reader in Invisible Writings.. Something to Ponder upon!
> Hey have I invented new smiley? O:-) (Angel = innocent) and what about > ]:-D (Devil = miscevious)
Your angel is recognized and displayed with a special icon by Thunderbird, so I don't think you invented it. However, it just displayed your Devil as plain text, so you might have invented that.
James Kuyper wrote: > Reader in Invisible Writings wrote: > ... >> Hey have I invented new smiley? O:-) (Angel = innocent) and what about >> ]:-D (Devil = miscevious)
> Your angel is recognized and displayed with a special icon by > Thunderbird, so I don't think you invented it. However, it just > displayed your Devil as plain text, so you might have invented that.
Interesting, I showed up here on 'receipt' but not when I composed it! I checked Pidgin and it uses (A) for angel and (6) for devil.. Having searched (and this was the biggest list) http://www.acronymslist.com/cat/sms-text-smileys-and-emoticons-p5.html it seems that >:-) is devil (> + :-), which I considered before deciding that the ] looked better than > for the horns.
-- Reader in Invisible Writings.. Something to Ponder upon!
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