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alt.atheism.FAQ

Version 0.1
Sunday 27 Sep 2009

compiled by alt.atheism regulator
Contributions and corrections welcome via NG




CONTENTS:
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1.0 - Welcome

2.0 - What's New

3.0 - The Charter

4.0 - Frequently Asked Questions.

4.1 What is alt.atheism?

4.2 - What is a atheism?( WIP)
4.2.1 Some definitions

4.3 - History of the NG  (WIP)

4.4 - Who are the Key Figures In Atheism (WIP)
4.4.1 Modern Atheists

4.5 Atheism as part of Non-Belief

4.6 Atheism in History

4.7 Common terms

4.8 Where can I find archived messages?

4.9 Who moderates alt.atheism?

5.0 - Contributors

6.0 - Additions / Amendments to the FAQ



1.0 WELCOME
=============

Welcome to alt.atheism, an open, unmoderated newsgroup
for the discussion of all topics relating to
atheism in an open forum dedicated to
Free Speech and rights for all.



2.0 What's new:
=============



The BAWAA faction have revived their Warlord after a series
of defections and the general decline of the NG for some years now.

Can the rot be stopped?

Ask the new Warlord, Fluffy


http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/



3.0 THE CHARTER
================


CHARTER: alt.atheism

An unmoderated newsgroup which would provide a
forum for the discussion of all aspects
of atheism.

Possible discussions are, but not limited to:

- Union of Savage Slaughter and Repression(USSR)
- Mao's Great Leap Backwards
- Mao's Cultural Devolution
- Pol Pots Cambodian Genocide
- Nth Korea
- Atheist fundamentalism
- The decline in global Atheism
- Metaphysics.. Just kidding!
- Jesus jokes
- Hard-Core Atheist thuggery
   - forging
   - Slandering
   - Lying
   - Pack Hunting
   - BAWAA

    # From: Steve Knight <sknigh...@cox.net>
    # Newsgroups: alt.atheism
    # Subject: A.A. BAAWA  - FAQ
    # Message-ID: <p8mrb5lvaf0cj5bp1e4jbmlsqebu9j9...@4ax.com>
    # Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 02:46:34 -0700
    #
    # We kill theists and shit down their throats and
    #  not in a girly way.


This group will be unmoderated.
Binary postings, chain letters and unrelated
commercial advertisements are prohibited.

Cross-posting should not be discouraged.

Knowledge is Holistic, Users should exercise their
judgement as to which NGs are relevant



4.0 FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
================================

4.1 What is alt.atheism?

alt.atheism is the Internet network news forum
for discussing atheism

4.2 - What is a atheism? ( WIP)

Here are some starting points, feel free to
submit/discuss your own:


4.2.1 Definition

1. "The Doctrine that their is no God"
2. "A Disbelief in the existence of a God (or gods)
3. Godlessness

The Macquarie Dictionary (2nd Revised edition) 1989



4.2.2 Some Individual Perspectives:


      Send us your views.


4.2.2.1 Historical Atheism:

"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
     -Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
     - Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

Atheist States

# http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism#Wolak2004
#
# "State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
# by a government, typically by active suppression of
# religious freedom and practice."
#     - "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
#       Characteristics and Consequences,
#        David Kowalewski,
#        Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
#
#
# "An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia’s Buddhist religion:
# monks were defrocked; temples and artifacts, including statues of
# Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
# other religious sentiments were often killed.
# ...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
# and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
# and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
# starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
# prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
# instead of the family.
#
# About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
# were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot’s regime."
#      -   http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_761579038/pol_pot.html
#
# The Cambodian Genocide:
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/392millones.jpg

#
# "The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
# regarded by the regime as social parasites,
# were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
# Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
# destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
# Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
# rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
# or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
# were often killed.
#
# The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
# persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
# Phnom Penh was completely razed.
#
# The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
# regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
# Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
#        -  http://countrystudies.us/cambodia/29.htm
#
# "Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
# because of their religion."
#
http://www.lietuvos.net/istorija/communism/communism_photos2/44camboyano.jpg
#
#
# "the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
#     - Daniel Peris,
#     "Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
#      Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
#
#
# "State atheism has been mostly implemented in communist
# countries, such as the former Soviet Union,[1] China,
# Communist Albania, Communist Afghanistan, North Korea,
# Communist Mongolia and Poland under communist rule also
# promoted state atheism and suppressed religion.
#     - Forced out: the fate of Polish Jewry in Communist Poland.
#       Wolak, Arthur J.    p 104
#
# In these nations, the governments viewed atheism as an
# intrinsic part of communist ideology.





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4.3- History of the NG

Achievements:


Goals:





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4.4 - Who are the Key Figures in Atheism (WIP)


4.4.1 Modern Atheists

Lenin

Mao

Stalin

Pol Pot

Kim ill Fuk

Kim ill Suk

Richard Dawkins

Christopher Hitchens

Fluffy the BAWAA Warlord{Snigger)

BAWAA Nights

  http://www.computerpranks.com/download/images/sheep_guy.jpg


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4.5 Atheism as a minority  sub-group of Non-Belief



# Highlights: US religious majority: 80%
#
#            Atheists 2.3% worldwide
#                     0.7% in the USA
#
#
# American Religious Identification Survey, Summary Report March 2009:
#
# "Self-identification of U.S. Adult Population by Religious Tradition
#
#                         2001                   2008
#
# Non- religious     29,481,000  (14.1%)     34,169,000  (15%)
#
# Religious         167,254,000      (80%)     182,198,000     (80%)
#
# Agnostics             991,000   (0.5%)      1,985,000  (0.9%)
#
# Atheists              902,000   (0.4%)      1,621,000  (0.7%)
#

#
#   'NON-RELIGIOUS' DOES NOT  = ATHEIST
#
#    Atheism is

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4.6 Atheism in History  (WIP)

Epicurus

Hypatia

Not Much Happening for millennia

No great and enduring civilisations

@0th Century Atheist States

   USSR

   Maoist China

   Pol Pots Cambodia

   Nth Korea

   Albania?

Russell

Dawkins

Hitchins

Bus Ads


In May 2009, their support waning and their numbers dwindling
to a mere handful, the BAWAA faction decided to emulate the
historical political structure of the infamous Atheist states
of the the 20th Century and chose a Warlord to control their
thoughts and actions   See Fluffy

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/


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4.7 Common terms

4.7.1 What is "BAWAA"

       A cult formed around a self-appointed 'Warlord'

       Like the priesthood, they are dying out, for
       much the same reasons    ;-)

4.7.2 What is a Baaa Baaa Waa Waaa Night

       Here are two of them, they are interchangable

       http://www.computerpranks.com/download/images/sheep_guy.jpg


4.7.3 What is "Blind Cricket"

Fluffy goes sub-orbital

    http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/

4.7.4 What is ad-hom


     'ad-hom', a contraction for 'ad-hominem argument',
      means literally 'argument against the man'.
      In alt.atheism ad-hom is synonymous with 'abuse'.
      This is in distinction to the formal meaning of
      ad-hominem argument in which the truth or falsity
      of a proposition is said to follow from the source
      of the proposition.


4.7.5 What does "fasgnadh" mean

       "Sorting the Wheat from the Chaff"
        separating the worthy from the unworthy.

4.7.6 What is post forgery
       The unconscionable alteration of text and attributions
        to make the posters words appear to be attributed to
        their victim See Syd Slander and Virgil

4.7.7 What is a Killfile?

       The standard tactic for atheists to avoid questions they
       can't answer, arguments too rational for them to rebut
       and their major method of Running Away

4.7.8 What Snip and Run

       Snipping all of the opponents text and saying nothing

4.7.9 What is the future for alt.atheism


  # "The Kooks and assholes are way louder and more visible
  # it is getting to me lately.
  #
  # The kooks are stupid but tedious and boring with it
  # -not even "kooky" in an entertaining - fun to poke at - way.
  #
  # There are no decent arguments"
  #
  # Subject: The Decline of alt atheism - and time to say farewell.
  # From: Richo <m.richardso...@gmail.com>
  # Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:59:09 -0700 (PDT)
  # Message-ID: 
<acbca475-4901-4b6d-ab9d-44ffede51...@s21g2000prm.googlegroups.com>


4.7.10 What is a "Drongo", "fruit loop", "Boofhead", "Bozo", "mullet",

        "nong", "rabbit" ..an idiot  cf:   Virgil

4.7.11 What is an "Ankle-biter"

        - a (small) child
        (cf: apprentice Baaa Baaa Waaa Waaa Nought ;-)


4.7.12 What is a "Wanker"

        - someone prone to self-abuse,
        often in public. eg: Bukakke

4.7.13 What is

4.7.14 What is

4.7.15

4.7.16


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4.8. Where can I find archived messages?

Posts are archived at www.google.com.

Except for Fluffy's, he's shy.

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4.9 Who moderates alt.atheism?

No-one. This is an unmoderated NG.
Anyone is free to post here within the defamation,
  libel and vilification laws of the land

This was the founding principle of USENET and is supported,
at least in principle, by most people who value freedom

"The Universal Declaration of Human Rights turns 60 next week
  and, as the founding document for all international human rights
  treaties, it has played an important legal and intellectual
  role for the past 60 years.

  We are all free to believe, think and speak
  http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=HmHS-bSIH9g

  "Human right # 18

  Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience
  and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or
  belief, and freedom, either alone or in community, with others
  and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in
  teaching, practice, worship and observance."
   - The Universal Declaration of Human Rights


  Which of these people don't have rights?
     http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=ixjACBvv2mE

  No one can take them away
     http://www.youthforhumanrights.org/watchads/view/psa30_h.html

5.0 CONTRIBUTORS
================

fasgnadh -Comic Inspiration
Morton Lucifer -FAQ creator
Steve Knight - Playing with Swords and stuff
Ritcho - Showing Atheists the way
Bukakke - Sewer Inspector
Virgil - Photocopying
Trance Stupor - zzzzzzzzzzzz

I wouldn't want to upset anyone by leaving them out


6.0 - ADDITIONS / AMENDMENTS TO THE FAQ
=======================================
Post submissions to the alt.atheism NG
with

AAA FAQ ...   in the header

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