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  <description>The JDev ADF Enterprise Methodology Group is for discussing high level design issues for ADF projects, beyond how to get things to work or bugs via the OTN forums. This is a professional forum. Please join with accounts based on your name. Attempts to join with anonymous accounts will be refused.</description>
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  <title>Dynamic Tabs Shell template - useful to mere mortals?</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com.au/group/adf-methodology/browse_thread/thread/f84bdcec40b7819f/4f87af4e4120df5f?show_docid=4f87af4e4120df5f</link>
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  Yesterday I had a look into the new Dynamic Tabs Shell template, as &lt;br&gt; delivered in 11gR1 PS1. I wrote a blog posting about it here: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.veriton.co.uk/roller/fmw/entry/adf_dynamic_tabs_shell_template&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Now my question is, how useful will this template be to custom/bespoke &lt;br&gt; app developments of a much more modest size than Fusion Apps? I&#39;ve
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  sim...@veriton.co.uk
  (Simon Haslam)
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  <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:05:53 UT
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  <title>Re: Reuse - Base class for backing beans</title>
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  Hi Florin, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;absolutely, the JSFBean could go a lot further. Execute including &lt;br&gt; parameters and better return types would definitely enhance the &lt;br&gt; functionality. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;cheers, &lt;br&gt; Brenden
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  brenden.ans...@delexian.com
  (Brenden Anstey)
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  <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 02:20:00 UT
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  <title>Re: [ADF EMG] Re: DB API-based ADF Business Components</title>
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  Hi Nirav, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Go to the following link and apply as a developer (I&#39;ll approve you). Go &lt;br&gt; ahead and check the projects out of Subversion. If you haven&#39;t read the &lt;br&gt; developer&#39;s guide, start with that, and then start looking through the &lt;br&gt; source code. When you feel like you&#39;ve got a general sense of what&#39;s going
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  av...@avromroyfaderman.com
  (Avrom Roy-Faderman)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:42:59 UT
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  <title>Re: Reuse - Base class for backing beans</title>
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  Hi Brendan, interesting and useful posting! &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Just one idea: how about the &#39;execute()&#39; method from your example to &lt;br&gt; return the exception object instead of a boolean value. &lt;br&gt; It might prove useful when the business code is using a custom stack &lt;br&gt; of application exceptions. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Best, &lt;br&gt; Florin &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;On Nov 6, 2:25 am, Brenden Anstey &amp;lt;brenden.ans...@delexian.com&amp;gt;
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  florin.mar...@gmail.com
  (Florin Marcus)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:41:15 UT
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  <title>Re: [ADF EMG] Re: DB API-based ADF Business Components</title>
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  I&#39;m interested to work as a developer on this project. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Thanks, &lt;br&gt; Nirav Shah &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Avrom Roy-Faderman &amp;lt;
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  shah.nir...@gmail.com
  (Nirav Shah)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:14:36 UT
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  <title>Re: [ADF EMG] Re: DB API-based ADF Business Components</title>
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  I will be interested to be part of it( but only after Jan 20th i will be &lt;br&gt; able to start spending time towards that), my current project goes live on &lt;br&gt; Jan 4th and expecting to be busy two weeks of go live support. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:20 PM, Avrom Roy-Faderman &amp;lt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; Thanks &lt;br&gt; Prasad &lt;br&gt; Cell:510-565-5008
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  prasad.narah...@gmail.com
  (prasad narahari)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 06:41:39 UT
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  <title>Re: Reuse - Base class for backing beans</title>
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  Hi all, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I have been using the the base class approach on regular basis for &lt;br&gt; over year now and it definitely has its merits. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://brendenanstey.blogspot.com/2007/03/how-to-reduce-coding-by-extending.html&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;As John said the benefit of this comes in to play when you have really &lt;br&gt; simple stuff to do in the backing bean like chaining execution of
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  brenden.ans...@delexian.com
  (Brenden Anstey)
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  <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:25:06 UT
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  <title>Re: DB API-based ADF Business Components</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com.au/group/adf-methodology/browse_thread/thread/4e23f6257426fc08/3da832464a641e20?show_docid=3da832464a641e20</link>
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  Hi all, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;This project is looking for someone to take it over after release 1.0. &lt;br&gt; Anyone interested? &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Thanks much, &lt;br&gt; Avrom
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  av...@avromroyfaderman.com
  (Avrom Roy-Faderman)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 02:20:31 UT
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  <title>Re: [ADF EMG] Re: How about a document on Anti Patterns?</title>
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  I&#39;m willing to collaborate as well, anti patterns is interesting topic for &lt;br&gt; me. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Let us know, when started document will be ready. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Andrejus &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;2009/11/6 JV Singh &amp;lt;jvs...@gmail.com&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-- &lt;br&gt; Oracle ACE Director &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;My Blog - &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://andrejusb.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; My JDev/ADF Samples list - &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://andrejusb-samples.blogspot.com/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  andrejus.baranovs...@gmail.com
  (Andrejus Baranovskis)
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  <pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 05:59:33 UT
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  <title>Re: [ADF EMG] Re: How about a document on Anti Patterns?</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com.au/group/adf-methodology/browse_thread/thread/ec5ea52229b92ca9/5c23bc17977e6a19?show_docid=5c23bc17977e6a19</link>
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  Michael, &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Thanks for your interest ! &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Absolutely, just give me some time to put together a starter document, run &lt;br&gt; it by people whose content I might have borrowed/referred to and then we&#39;ll &lt;br&gt; all get to collaborate and add on it. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;bad practice? &lt;br&gt; Definitely not. There are always multiple ways of achieving something.
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  jvs...@gmail.com
  (JV Singh)
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  <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:28:52 UT
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  <title>Re: How about a document on Anti Patterns?</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com.au/group/adf-methodology/browse_thread/thread/ec5ea52229b92ca9/e93532e3f172caac?show_docid=e93532e3f172caac</link>
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  I am also interested in this and willing to participate. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Yet I feel like we need to define more what anti-patterns are. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;The best definition that comes in mind is that: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;•	It’s a way to implement functionality that has a better way to &lt;br&gt; implement the same functionality. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;But does that mean that if you have a best practice everything else is
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  mko...@hotmail.com
  (Michael Koniotiakis)
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  <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:34:20 UT
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  <title>Re: How about a document on Anti Patterns?</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com.au/group/adf-methodology/browse_thread/thread/ec5ea52229b92ca9/9edb46de42314de7?show_docid=9edb46de42314de7</link>
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  Also saw on the slide show Andrejus Baronovskis presented he mentioned &lt;br&gt; quite a couple of things to avoid/stay away from when working with ADF &lt;br&gt; in a production environment.
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  drikusbr...@gmail.com
  (Drikus Britz)
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  <pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 12:53:27 UT
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  <title>Re: How about a document on Anti Patterns?</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com.au/group/adf-methodology/browse_thread/thread/ec5ea52229b92ca9/be05a6e937efdf92?show_docid=be05a6e937efdf92</link>
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  Hi JV &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Great idea. Given a number of members wont be familiar with the &lt;br&gt; concept of anti patterns nor how they apply to ADF, why don&#39;t you &lt;br&gt; start a discussion based, say, on one of Steve&#39;s examples. Drop Steve &lt;br&gt; an email at the usual Oracle email address to ask permission, I&#39;m sure &lt;br&gt; he&#39;d love discussion around some of his previous ideas.
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  chriscm...@gmail.com
  (Chris Muir)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:52:20 UT
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  <title>How about a document on Anti Patterns?</title>
  <link>http://groups.google.com.au/group/adf-methodology/browse_thread/thread/ec5ea52229b92ca9/89c1c4c6ca8cbb56?show_docid=89c1c4c6ca8cbb56</link>
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  This recent discussion (&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://groups.google.com/group/adf-methodology/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; browse_thread/thread/85789753d 19d1aeb) &lt;br&gt; prompted me to think of another document on common ADF anti-patterns/ &lt;br&gt; bad practices parallel to the Coding Standards document. &lt;br&gt; I have read some good tips on what *not* to do by Steve Muench and the
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  jvs...@gmail.com
  (Jang Vijay Singh)
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  <pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 11:49:44 UT
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  <title>Re: [ADF EMG] Re: A new way for post-query (description field) without using the EO or get accessor pls give me your feedback.</title>
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  I also recommend using a reference entity usage in your view object to &lt;br&gt; manage reference description data for lookup fields. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I&#39;ve seen a number of anti-patterns in this area and I&#39;m still trying to &lt;br&gt; understand what approach would be more efficient than the above one which is &lt;br&gt; handled automatically for you by the ADF framework but during query as well
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  steve.mue...@gmail.com
  (Steve Muench)
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  <pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:30:19 UT
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