ADF Enterprise Methodology Group Google Group

Dynamic Tabs Shell template - useful to mere mortals?

2009-11-18T09:05:53Z

Yesterday I had a look into the new Dynamic Tabs Shell template, as
delivered in 11gR1 PS1. I wrote a blog posting about it here:
[link]

Now my question is, how useful will this template be to custom/bespoke
app developments of a much more modest size than Fusion Apps? I've

How about a document on Anti Patterns?

2009-11-03T11:49:44Z

This recent discussion ([link]
browse_thread/thread/85789753d 19d1aeb)
prompted me to think of another document on common ADF anti-patterns/
bad practices parallel to the Coding Standards document.
I have read some good tips on what *not* to do by Steve Muench and the

A new way for post-query (description field) without using the EO or get accessor pls give me your feedback.

2009-10-31T12:04:52Z

Dear All,

Regarding the post-query,(using for getting the description field
which is in another table such as viewing the name of department when
there is only department_id in the VO of employee) as you now we have
2 common ways to handle that first is to use two EO that there is an
association between them which one of them is updatable and the other

Standards around Model / UI project dependencies

2009-10-29T18:13:07Z

Hello Everyone,

This is my first post to the group and I look forward to exchanging
ideas with all of you. I am very passionate about getting this
excellent technology widely adopted and in the right way.

I did search the group for existing posts on this topic but didn't
find any.

I think one point that merits an addition to the standards is for

DB API-based ADF Business Components

2009-10-27T04:38:26Z

Hi all,

Not 100% sure this is appropriate here--mods, please delete if it
isn't.

I wanted to announce an ADF project I just started on SampleCode: A
completely rewritten framework for DB API-based ADF Business
Components. The first public beta version (0.1b) is available for
download now, but I'm especially interested in finding any community

Test - please ignore

2009-10-22T00:02:36Z

Test - please ignore

Reuse - Base class for backing beans

2009-10-15T19:40:48Z

I found that there were some methods that I was writing again and
again in backing beans. So I finally wrote my own backing bean base
class, and now all my backing beans subclass it. Anybody else doing
this? Good idea or bad? Another approach is to write utility classes
like Steve Muench;s EL class, and call the utility methods where

Reuse - Do you have your own subclasses of ADF BC Impl classes?

2009-10-15T19:33:02Z

What the subject says -
I've heard Steve Muench and others state as a best practice that you
should always subclass ADF BC's implementation classes even if you
don't plan at first to write any of your own code in them. The idea
is that if you later decide to add some code you have a place to put

PL/SQL global context and global temporary table in ADF

2009-10-13T02:44:28Z

Hi All,
I have read many different topics around lots of PL/SQL and ADF. I
still want to start this new thread to address one of our biggest road
block of ADF project. Our current project has so many PL/SQL code and
many API calls involve PL/SQL global context setting where other PL/
SQL APIs depend on last calls. Also there are some Global Temporary

One Model Project and two viewProjects

2009-10-08T22:04:43Z

When we disign applications in jDev; we are quite driven to share model
projects directly into viewProjects;
The real fact is that model projects, are not to be directly shared by
diferrents viewProjects; at least in my tests here;
how to deal with it ?
[link]

Ring the celebration bells - 1000 messages

2009-10-08T01:30:52Z

The group just hit another milestone, 1000 posts in just over a year.
Well done everyone, and thanks for participating. Nice to see people
are willing to take time out to chat with peers on best practices and
more.

For the record, top posters have been:

196 Chris Muir (can't shut me up)
70 Avrom Roy-Faderman

Thread hijacking - not to worry

2009-10-08T01:27:59Z

As Avrom has noted threads are getting accidentally hijacked in the
Google Group.

My understanding is this occurs because at some point somebody takes
one of the original emails, replies, changes the subject line and
sends it back in. Apparently Google Groups doesn't track threads by
the subject line but some other mechanism, and will happily allow the

which method is standard for primary-key in ADF 11g? (DBSequence or uncheck mandatory for PK in EO)

2009-10-07T10:40:45Z

Dear All,
I want to bring a new discussion about standard way of implementing PK in
ADF.
I always use DBSEquece for primary key but many are using another way that
is:
uncheck the mandatory field for the attribute with primary-key in the EO,and
ADF in working with null value in pk and suprisingly it is working!

The ideal ADF team

2009-10-06T12:31:58Z

Hi all,

We've been discussing skills and training a couple of times in the
group, so I thought it would be a good idea to start a skills list -
what are the skills you want on your ADF Dream Team?

Here's a couple of ideas to get the discussion going:

Java skills
Java (as a language - basic skills)

Template ADF app - what web.xml error-codes do you include for ADF applications?

2009-10-02T02:57:00Z

Hi all

At my current client we've been working on building an ADF Fusion
application template that includes bits 'n' bobs required for all of
our applications beyond what JDev creates out of the box via the
Application Wizard. For example by default we setup our package
structures in the Model and ViewController projects (ie. the Model is

Testing strategies for ADF Projects

2009-09-18T07:40:26Z

We're approaching OOW rapidly, and we're discussing the different
topics that can be adressed during the ADF EMG Sessions.

One of the topics I would like to start discussing in this group, is
the testing strategies that are used at the different project sites.

In most projects we're now trying to introduce Test Driven

Re: [ADF Enterprise Methodology Group] Are you attending DOAG 2009 ?

2009-09-13T16:57:35Z

Hi Uli,

what will be the official language? German or English? and how many
ADF related sessions?

thanks,

Branislav

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:10 PM, ugb

--
Branislav Nemec
branislav.ne...@gmail.com

Are you attending DOAG 2009 ?

2009-09-10T19:10:52Z

Hi all,
from
17.-19.11.2009 is in Nürnberg the German Oracle User Group (DOAG) conference.

I will be there and it would be nice to meet other members of this group in germany.

uli

Are you presenting at OOW09 on JDeveloper and ADF?

2009-09-10T13:02:31Z

Like the ODTUG conference, I'd like to invite speakers at Oracle Open
World 2009 on JDeveloper and ADF to post their presentations (titles
and abstracts) here, and for everybody to post what paritcular
sessions they're looking forward too.

Cheers,

CM.

OOW/UKOUG 2009 agenda topics

2009-08-26T16:43:12Z

Dear All

It's not that long now until OOW 2009, and then a month or so later in
Europe, for UKOUG 2009. We have an hour long session for ADF EMG at
each.

Some of the best conference sessions I've been to over the years have
been smaller ones where there has been active discussion between the

Importing Short cut Keys from other IDE's

2009-08-25T14:32:48Z

Hi All,

Does anybody know it it's possible to import short cut keys from for
example Eclipse inside the Jdeveloper IDE?
If developers are used to working in a specific IDE using specific
short cut keys, templates, ... it would be interesting to be able to
import your existing templates, short cut keys, libraries, etc.

What about so many files, inside an fusion application !

2009-08-20T04:50:09Z

Hi, to all;
I'm using adf for about 5 or 6 years, (since uix);
Some days ago, I find myself felling guilty to create one more
task-flow or to post an binding-method call, because it will create more
binding's xml files;
Really, the number of xml ( or xml based ) files, rise significantly;

Initiative to encourage ADF for beginners - "Thanks to Chris Muir for giving permission to post this to the group".

2009-08-18T07:38:16Z

"Thanks to Chris Muir for giving permission to post this to the
group".

Hi All,

First of all, I would like to thank all the ADF gurus here in ADF EMG
for motivating and providing a lot of support for beginners in ADF
like me. ADF EMG is very informative and helps us focus on all aspects

Are you attending Oracle Open World 2009 or UKOUG 2009?

2009-08-12T12:35:44Z

We're happy to announce that we'll be running an ADF EMG session again
this year at Oracle Open World 2009, and even more excited to let you
know we'll be running another session at the UKOUG conference in
Birmingham Nov/Dec.

Like last year's OOW session, we'd like to invite you along to make

Best Practice for Application Structure

2009-07-24T00:42:46Z

We are working on a product solution (first time) using Oracle ADF
11g. I would like to have some advice on the structuring of the
project file and also the best recommended process for managing
deployments, post go live.

We have split our project into four portions - main application,
foundation, application1, application2. The foundation contains entity

ADF Framework for new OPSS

2009-07-23T09:09:47Z

Hi Every one...
Recently I confuse about the idea behind the security of ADF...
about we can't not make user and group programmatically...
the only way I know is I have to use XXjazn.xmlXX and use it for
register user and group..
How about if The Application want to handle it dynamically.. for

How to keep in sync ADF BC with your database schema

2009-07-16T21:23:06Z

Hi,

In a current project (based on ADF 11) we have more often than we like
changes on the database schema. So for example type changes from number
(14,2) to number(14,4) or new column in a view and so on. Those
changes are not immediatly recognized by ADF BC. Sometimes the
problems/sideeffects are only realized at runtime. Most Unit test do

ADF Training

2009-07-16T04:10:38Z

Hello ADF team.

So, I have a fairly junior Java shop with some Power Builder
developers and a couple Java / .NET resources. I was wondering what
the best way to introduce ADF to the team. I am looking for advice on
training that will help act as a catalyst to the learning curve.

Are there any suggestions out there? I have taken the Oracle ADF

Getting more ADF sessions at Oracle Develop/Open World

2009-07-09T18:20:06Z

We are hoping that we'll get to see a lot of you guys in the upcoming
Oracle Develop event in San Francisco as part of Oracle Open World.
We have about 23 JDeveloper/ADF sessions that the product management
team is going to present, and another set of hands-on libraries that
we'll be running.
There are also several sessions by Oracle ACEs that got into this

pattern for run a method on start of the page only 1 time

2009-07-01T11:58:04Z

Hi,

Regarding to invoke a method in the page start up and only one time I
am looking for the best pattern to use;
because using the (refresh condition= not post back) is some times
invoked more than one time making it inappropriate when we absolutely
need to run the method only 1 time .
is there any other option or pattern except setting the refresh

A new place for ADF Sample Code from the Community

2009-07-01T16:32:21Z

I mentioned this was coming in one of the previous discussion where
people talked about developing reusable components and task flows that
will be shared, Now it is up and running....

The new Oracle Code Sample repository is here:
[link]

I think it would be great if the members of this community will start

Revised membership acceptance procedure

2009-06-25T08:09:25Z

Just to let you know that Chris and I have revised the membership
procedure recently.

Following on from the survey earlier this year (about versions of
JDeveloper, the type of ADF development etc) we have been asking all
new members to complete this survey. It would appear that some people
need more encouragement to do this, so we now stipulate on the join-up

Is Oracle selling ADF has some "point and drop and the page is built" app?

2009-06-14T15:58:34Z

Hi,

I am on my 3rd ADF 11g project. One thing I learned in my 2 years with
ADF, is the demo and basic tutorials provided by Oracle don't do
justice to the potential of ADF.

When I started ADF, I felt like a complete idiot. Add to that lack of
proper documentation and samples and I was pulling my hair. Anyways,

ADF InputText with lots of autoSubmits..

2009-06-14T03:27:38Z

We have an ADF 10g application. We tried to resemble and mimic the
functionality in Oracle Forms where in when an textbox looses focus, a
method code or validation method fires. There are lots of
auto-submits/partial submit going on in the page.
But the thing is we are inserting code in the viewRow setter attributes

Are you and ODTUG member? Will you be attending Kaleidoscope 2009?

2009-06-14T09:56:27Z

Out of curiosity, I'd like to ask the following question of members of
this group:

1) Who is an ODTUG member?
[link]

2) Will you be attending the ODTUG Kaleidoscope 2009 conference in
Monterey?
[link]

3) Regardless if you're attending or not, do any of the JDev/ADF

[ADF Lots of TextBox with partialSubmits/autoSubmits.

2009-06-14T03:23:24Z

Do you have production 11g applications?

2009-06-10T21:47:41Z

It might be slightly off topic, but since there was a thread about how
to convince people to adopt ADF, and since this is related to this - I
thought I would try posting here.

We (Oracle) don't have a mechanism that allows us to track who is
using ADF and at what stage of development they are. We mostly rely on

ADF Faces page content naming conventions

2009-06-09T06:00:10Z

Hi gang

Lets kick off another discussion before the vacuum takes the group
over.

One thing we occasionally get in a muddle over is, the naming (or more
strictly, the id'ing) of ADF Faces/ADF Faces RC components in a page.
By default as you drag n drop components onto a page, JDev doesn't
bother to add an id to the component, it's up to the developer to do

Have you checked out our pages?

2009-06-05T01:02:43Z

Hi all

There doesn't seem to be much activity on the group at the moment?
I'm guessing everybody has given up on methodologies and design, and
just hacking ADF stuff together. In the wise words of Han Solo: "Good
luck, you're going to need it!" ;-)

Please remember the success of this group is driven by you, the

UKOUG 2009 ADF EMG session?

2009-06-01T07:22:01Z

I know it seems a long time away but the UK Oracle User Group 2009
"call for papers" is open ([link]) and I'm
wondering whether we should submit an ADF EMG session for it to give
people in Europe more of a chance to take part too.

What do you think? How many of you are likely to attend UKOUG?

Secure cookie and architecture

2009-05-20T14:28:50Z

Hi All,

I apologize, if you this is not the right group/forum for my post. In
that case, I would appreciate if some one can direct me to the right
post.

We are about to go to production, with our first adf application, in 2
days. We are using Siteminder for SSO. The prod architecture consists

System Continuous Integration

2009-05-20T11:25:55Z

Hi.
Leaving aside the survey :)

Oracle have a system Continuous Integration like Continuum,
Hudson,etc.. for ADF applications?

Or Which recommend?

Thanks in advance

JDeveloper Survey results

2009-05-18T05:48:36Z

Hi gang

I'm happy to announce the results of the JDeveloper survey we recently
conducted on this group. I'd like to thank all those who participated
and gave generously gave their time to answer the survey.

The raw results can be found on this page here:

[link]

Please participate in our survey - 5 minutes

2009-04-28T12:57:56Z

I'd like to invite members to participate in a little survey to gather
information about how we're all using JDeveloper and ADF. It would be
great if you could participate please.

The survey can be found here:

[link]

It should take no longer than 5 minutes.

We've cracked 200 members! - New members please introduce yourself

2009-04-06T02:07:25Z

Hi everyone

I'm happy to announce we've cracked the 200 member mark! That's an
additional 50 members in just a couple of months.

It's a small tradition on this group that new members introduce
themselves please, and let the rest of the members know the following:

1) why they've joined the group

Runtime diagnosability

2009-04-02T20:33:53Z

Hi all,

I was thinking about runtime diagnosability in ADF of late, and was
wondering if anyone had any thoughts to share about this.
Specifically, I was interested in hearing if user community finds the
current level of diagnosability adequate or there are recommendations
for improvement here.

Inside ADF Model best architecture design & patterns

2009-03-26T14:01:51Z

Why this subject ?

I'm currently auditing a java desktop three tier application that
implements EJB's at business model layer. The application is
encountering some performance issues, this is the reason we are doing
some profiling (JProfiler) when executing performance test use cases
(using HP QTP). We don't have the source code.

What's one more "extreme" among friends? Extreme ADF debugging

2009-03-23T00:36:02Z

Hi gang

Many of you would know that Oracle will allow you to obtain the
complete ADF source code from Oracle Support (as long as you sign your
life away and secure the code by buring the downloaded code in
concrete). If installed correctly under JDeveloper, this avoids those
annoying debugging problems where JDeveloper prompts you for the

Embed video in ADF faces

2009-03-19T23:41:49Z

Hi All,
I was wondering if it is possible to embedd a video inside a page.
I know in order to embed a video, say a youtube video, in a normal html page
, I can do that by embedding the object in html.
Is there a similar mechanism in ADF such that I can write html code in a ADF
faces page (jsff, jspx)

Tomcat 6 with ADF 11g

2009-03-14T02:10:28Z

Hi,
Any one has tried deploying ADF 11g application with Tomcat. I found couple
of blogs on internet but not able to deploy successfully.
Is Any one has tried yet, please reply.