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Jang Vijay Singh  
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 More options Nov 3, 10:49 pm
From: Jang Vijay Singh <jvs...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 03:49:44 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Nov 3 2009 10:49 pm
Subject: How about a document on Anti Patterns?
This recent discussion (http://groups.google.com/group/adf-methodology/
browse_thread/thread/85789753d19d1aeb)
prompted me to think of another document on common ADF anti-patterns/
bad practices parallel to the Coding Standards document.
I have read some good tips on what *not* to do by Steve Muench and the
other veterans and it would benefit the community to have a well
vetted ready reference list.
I didn't want to take the liberty of creating a new document without
running it by the group first and also because a lot of the content I
had in mind has a notice that says:
"© Copyright 2008 Steve Muench."

Warm Regards,
JV


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Chris Muir  
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 More options Nov 4, 10:52 am
From: Chris Muir <chriscm...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2009 15:52:20 -0800 (PST)
Local: Wed, Nov 4 2009 10:52 am
Subject: Re: How about a document on Anti Patterns?
Hi JV

Great idea.  Given a number of members wont be familiar with the
concept of anti patterns nor how they apply to ADF, why don't you
start a discussion based, say, on one of Steve's examples.  Drop Steve
an email at the usual Oracle email address to ask permission, I'm sure
he'd love discussion around some of his previous ideas.

Regards,

CM.


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Drikus Britz  
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From: Drikus Britz <drikusbr...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:53:27 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 11:53 pm
Subject: Re: How about a document on Anti Patterns?
Also saw on the slide show Andrejus Baronovskis presented he mentioned
quite a couple of things to avoid/stay away from when working with ADF
in a production environment.

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Michael Koniotiakis  
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From: Michael Koniotiakis <mko...@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 10:34:20 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 5:34 am
Subject: Re: How about a document on Anti Patterns?
I am also interested in this and willing to participate.

Yet I feel like we need to define more what anti-patterns are.

The best definition that comes in mind is that:

•     It’s a way to implement functionality that has a better way to
implement the same functionality.

But does that mean that if you have a best practice everything else is
bad practice?

Since nothing is black or white, I feel we need to define in more
detail criteria that will evaluate one pattern against an other. I
could think of:

•     Reduce of Quality.
•     Reduce of Reusability
•     Reduce performance
•     Increase of development time
•     Increase of complexity
•     Generate bugs in combination with other practices or components

So I would suggest for every anti-pattern to define which criteria
make it an anti-pattern, and if possible to suggest a better practice
based on the same criteria.

On Nov 5, 2:53 pm, Drikus Britz <drikusbr...@gmail.com> wrote:


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JV Singh  
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 More options Nov 6, 9:28 am
From: JV Singh <jvs...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 22:28:52 +0000
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 9:28 am
Subject: Re: [ADF EMG] Re: How about a document on Anti Patterns?

Michael,

Thanks for your  interest !

>>I am also interested in this and willing to participate.

Absolutely, just give me some time to put together a starter document, run
it by people whose content I might have borrowed/referred to and then we'll
all get to collaborate and add on it.

>But does that mean that if you have a best practice everything else is

bad practice?
Definitely not.  There are always multiple ways of achieving something.
An anti-pattern, however is something that causes a lot of harm (e.g. it
makes very hard or impossible to make enhancements with reasonable cost) in
addition to the effects you mentioned.

Effects I had in mind:
1. Reduce your ability to change code easily, add new functionality with
minimal cost. etc.
2. Actually neutralize and negate the benefits offered by the framework
because either it is used incorrectly or contrary to how it's meant to be
used.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Michael Koniotiakis <mko...@hotmail.com>wrote:


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Andrejus Baranovskis  
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 More options Nov 6, 4:59 pm
From: Andrejus Baranovskis <andrejus.baranovs...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 07:59:33 +0200
Local: Fri, Nov 6 2009 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: [ADF EMG] Re: How about a document on Anti Patterns?

I'm willing to collaborate as well, anti patterns is interesting topic for
me.

Let us know, when started document will be ready.

Andrejus

2009/11/6 JV Singh <jvs...@gmail.com>

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