I have had the 2.0 USB Mandalas for several weeks now but cannot seem
to get them to do something for which I intended them. I don't the
extent to which this is possible, but the following is the general
idea: I use Logic Pro 8 to compose, basically as another instrument,
so my hope is to use the Mandalas as MIDI devices that trigger my
custom samples within Logic (this I heard is possible, but I am having
trouble with it and have yet to figure it out). Secondly, I am
interested in setting up the parameters in Logic in such a way that my
Mandala sound sets and maybe even the triggering sites on each pad
would change automatically according to the part of the piece I am
playing in (I am not sure if this is possible, and to what extent).
Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. To me, this seems like
a rather beastly, complex issue.
A Mandala is a MIDI controller like a USB MIDI keyboard. Think of the
Mandala zones as being keys which send note triggers and the 128
strike position outputs as being the mod wheel which sends controller
data to change something about your sound (pitch, filter, pan, etc.)
as you play.
Since the Mandala configuration (# or zones, note triggers, controller
#'s, etc.) is changeable you will have to set it the way you want it
for Logic. Your configuration will stay in the pad memory until the
next time you launch the Virtual Brain. The best way to do this is to
just skip the Virtual Brain and run the Mandala Control Burst
application (see Files section of this Google group) which will make
your pad 7 zones (C3 - F#3) with position controller #3 and velocity
controller #2. This way you can define how many trigger zones and
their sizes by signifying different trigger ranges in Logic's EXS.
For instance if one sample was triggered by C3-D3 and another was
triggered by D#3-F#3 you'd have 2 big zones.
> I have had the 2.0 USB Mandalas for several weeks now but cannot seem
> to get them to do something for which I intended them. I don't the
> extent to which this is possible, but the following is the general
> idea: I use Logic Pro 8 to compose, basically as another instrument,
> so my hope is to use the Mandalas as MIDI devices that trigger my
> custom samples within Logic (this I heard is possible, but I am having
> trouble with it and have yet to figure it out). Secondly, I am
> interested in setting up the parameters in Logic in such a way that my
> Mandala sound sets and maybe even the triggering sites on each pad
> would change automatically according to the part of the piece I am
> playing in (I am not sure if this is possible, and to what extent).
> Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. To me, this seems like
> a rather beastly, complex issue.
Thanks, I'll give that a try. What about working with this in real
time, as in having the samples and settings change in conjunction with
the sections? Any advice for that?
On 26 Sep, 13:51, turnkee <turn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> A Mandala is a MIDI controller like a USB MIDI keyboard. Think of the
> Mandala zones as being keys which send note triggers and the 128
> strike position outputs as being the mod wheel which sends controller
> data to change something about your sound (pitch, filter, pan, etc.)
> as you play.
> Since the Mandala configuration (# or zones, note triggers, controller
> #'s, etc.) is changeable you will have to set it the way you want it
> for Logic. Your configuration will stay in the pad memory until the
> next time you launch the Virtual Brain. The best way to do this is to
> just skip the Virtual Brain and run the Mandala Control Burst
> application (see Files section of this Google group) which will make
> your pad 7 zones (C3 - F#3) with position controller #3 and velocity
> controller #2. This way you can define how many trigger zones and
> their sizes by signifying different trigger ranges in Logic's EXS.
> For instance if one sample was triggered by C3-D3 and another was
> triggered by D#3-F#3 you'd have 2 big zones.
> > I have had the 2.0 USB Mandalas for several weeks now but cannot seem
> > to get them to do something for which I intended them. I don't the
> > extent to which this is possible, but the following is the general
> > idea: I use Logic Pro 8 to compose, basically as another instrument,
> > so my hope is to use the Mandalas as MIDI devices that trigger my
> > custom samples within Logic (this I heard is possible, but I am having
> > trouble with it and have yet to figure it out). Secondly, I am
> > interested in setting up the parameters in Logic in such a way that my
> > Mandala sound sets and maybe even the triggering sites on each pad
> > would change automatically according to the part of the piece I am
> > playing in (I am not sure if this is possible, and to what extent).
> > Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. To me, this seems like
> > a rather beastly, complex issue.
Hmmm.... still no luck. Could you possibly give me some even more
dumbed down and stepwise instructions? Apparently I'm quite the novice
in this respect. I got the Mandala Control Burst app. After embedding
the setting into the trigger, what is next? I am particularly confused
about the specific settings required in Logic. When I go back into
logic with the Control Burst settings I still get one single note (I
think a C#) on the midi track. Do I need to rout something in the
environment? I'm just overall confused about where to go from here.
Any help is greatly appreciated, especially since I have a lot of
written ideas that I'm waiting to work with and this is where I'm
stuck!
On 26 Sep, 13:51, turnkee <turn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> A Mandala is a MIDI controller like a USB MIDI keyboard. Think of the
> Mandala zones as being keys which send note triggers and the 128
> strike position outputs as being the mod wheel which sends controller
> data to change something about your sound (pitch, filter, pan, etc.)
> as you play.
> Since the Mandala configuration (# or zones, note triggers, controller
> #'s, etc.) is changeable you will have to set it the way you want it
> for Logic. Your configuration will stay in the pad memory until the
> next time you launch the Virtual Brain. The best way to do this is to
> just skip the Virtual Brain and run the Mandala Control Burst
> application (see Files section of this Google group) which will make
> your pad 7 zones (C3 - F#3) with position controller #3 and velocity
> controller #2. This way you can define how many trigger zones and
> their sizes by signifying different trigger ranges in Logic's EXS.
> For instance if one sample was triggered by C3-D3 and another was
> triggered by D#3-F#3 you'd have 2 big zones.
> > I have had the 2.0 USB Mandalas for several weeks now but cannot seem
> > to get them to do something for which I intended them. I don't the
> > extent to which this is possible, but the following is the general
> > idea: I use Logic Pro 8 to compose, basically as another instrument,
> > so my hope is to use the Mandalas as MIDI devices that trigger my
> > custom samples within Logic (this I heard is possible, but I am having
> > trouble with it and have yet to figure it out). Secondly, I am
> > interested in setting up the parameters in Logic in such a way that my
> > Mandala sound sets and maybe even the triggering sites on each pad
> > would change automatically according to the part of the piece I am
> > playing in (I am not sure if this is possible, and to what extent).
> > Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. To me, this seems like
> > a rather beastly, complex issue.
are you sure you chose the right thing under the 'Choose a Mandala:'
pulldown menu in Control Burst? mac users should choose
'MandalaNNNN' (NNNN is a number), then click that green button and
when it goes out after about 5 seconds your drum is set like the
picture. also, in logic you might want to go logic
pro>preferences>control surfaces>bypass all control surfaces before
you connect your mandala just to be safe. after that it's all up to
the way you prefer to use logic's exs24 sample player with a usb midi
controller in the form of a drum pad.
<inhabiting.the.wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hmmm.... still no luck. Could you possibly give me some even more
> dumbed down and stepwise instructions? Apparently I'm quite the novice
> in this respect. I got the Mandala Control Burst app. After embedding
> the setting into the trigger, what is next? I am particularly confused
> about the specific settings required in Logic. When I go back into
> logic with the Control Burst settings I still get one single note (I
> think a C#) on the midi track. Do I need to rout something in the
> environment? I'm just overall confused about where to go from here.
> Any help is greatly appreciated, especially since I have a lot of
> written ideas that I'm waiting to work with and this is where I'm
> stuck!
> On 26 Sep, 13:51, turnkee <turn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > A Mandala is a MIDI controller like a USB MIDI keyboard. Think of the
> > Mandala zones as being keys which send note triggers and the 128
> > strike position outputs as being the mod wheel which sends controller
> > data to change something about your sound (pitch, filter, pan, etc.)
> > as you play.
> > Since the Mandala configuration (# or zones, note triggers, controller
> > #'s, etc.) is changeable you will have to set it the way you want it
> > for Logic. Your configuration will stay in the pad memory until the
> > next time you launch the Virtual Brain. The best way to do this is to
> > just skip the Virtual Brain and run the Mandala Control Burst
> > application (see Files section of this Google group) which will make
> > your pad 7 zones (C3 - F#3) with position controller #3 and velocity
> > controller #2. This way you can define how many trigger zones and
> > their sizes by signifying different trigger ranges in Logic's EXS.
> > For instance if one sample was triggered by C3-D3 and another was
> > triggered by D#3-F#3 you'd have 2 big zones.
> > On Sep 26, 9:18 am, "dualitystrug...@gmail.com"
> > > I have had the 2.0 USB Mandalas for several weeks now but cannot seem
> > > to get them to do something for which I intended them. I don't the
> > > extent to which this is possible, but the following is the general
> > > idea: I use Logic Pro 8 to compose, basically as another instrument,
> > > so my hope is to use the Mandalas as MIDI devices that trigger my
> > > custom samples within Logic (this I heard is possible, but I am having
> > > trouble with it and have yet to figure it out). Secondly, I am
> > > interested in setting up the parameters in Logic in such a way that my
> > > Mandala sound sets and maybe even the triggering sites on each pad
> > > would change automatically according to the part of the piece I am
> > > playing in (I am not sure if this is possible, and to what extent).
> > > Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. To me, this seems like
> > > a rather beastly, complex issue.
That is a great help! Thank you turnkee! I finally got it to run
through Logic. My next problem (don't mean to be so needy, but I'll
mention it for whoever is willing to help): I have multiple triggers
(currently two), so how do I get them to run on different exs24s and
software instruments simultaneously? I have them set to different
channels but they still play through the same track. Also, is there an
automatic way to switch between tracks?
On 30 Sep, 16:18, turnkee <turn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> are you sure you chose the right thing under the 'Choose a Mandala:'
> pulldown menu in Control Burst? mac users should choose
> 'MandalaNNNN' (NNNN is a number), then click that green button and
> when it goes out after about 5 seconds your drum is set like the
> picture. also, in logic you might want to go logic
> pro>preferences>control surfaces>bypass all control surfaces before
> you connect your mandala just to be safe. after that it's all up to
> the way you prefer to use logic's exs24 sample player with a usb midi
> controller in the form of a drum pad.
> On Sep 30, 10:51 am, "dualitystrug...@gmail.com"
> <inhabiting.the.wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hmmm.... still no luck. Could you possibly give me some even more
> > dumbed down and stepwise instructions? Apparently I'm quite the novice
> > in this respect. I got the Mandala Control Burst app. After embedding
> > the setting into the trigger, what is next? I am particularly confused
> > about the specific settings required in Logic. When I go back into
> > logic with the Control Burst settings I still get one single note (I
> > think a C#) on the midi track. Do I need to rout something in the
> > environment? I'm just overall confused about where to go from here.
> > Any help is greatly appreciated, especially since I have a lot of
> > written ideas that I'm waiting to work with and this is where I'm
> > stuck!
> > On 26 Sep, 13:51, turnkee <turn...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > A Mandala is a MIDI controller like a USB MIDI keyboard. Think of the
> > > Mandala zones as being keys which send note triggers and the 128
> > > strike position outputs as being the mod wheel which sends controller
> > > data to change something about your sound (pitch, filter, pan, etc.)
> > > as you play.
> > > Since the Mandala configuration (# or zones, note triggers, controller
> > > #'s, etc.) is changeable you will have to set it the way you want it
> > > for Logic. Your configuration will stay in the pad memory until the
> > > next time you launch the Virtual Brain. The best way to do this is to
> > > just skip the Virtual Brain and run the Mandala Control Burst
> > > application (see Files section of this Google group) which will make
> > > your pad 7 zones (C3 - F#3) with position controller #3 and velocity
> > > controller #2. This way you can define how many trigger zones and
> > > their sizes by signifying different trigger ranges in Logic's EXS.
> > > For instance if one sample was triggered by C3-D3 and another was
> > > triggered by D#3-F#3 you'd have 2 big zones.
> > > On Sep 26, 9:18 am, "dualitystrug...@gmail.com"
> > > > I have had the 2.0 USB Mandalas for several weeks now but cannot seem
> > > > to get them to do something for which I intended them. I don't the
> > > > extent to which this is possible, but the following is the general
> > > > idea: I use Logic Pro 8 to compose, basically as another instrument,
> > > > so my hope is to use the Mandalas as MIDI devices that trigger my
> > > > custom samples within Logic (this I heard is possible, but I am having
> > > > trouble with it and have yet to figure it out). Secondly, I am
> > > > interested in setting up the parameters in Logic in such a way that my
> > > > Mandala sound sets and maybe even the triggering sites on each pad
> > > > would change automatically according to the part of the piece I am
> > > > playing in (I am not sure if this is possible, and to what extent).
> > > > Any help on this would be greatly appreciated. To me, this seems like
> > > > a rather beastly, complex issue.
