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From: Adam Moro

Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:39:28 -0700 (PDT)

Local: Fri, Jul 4 2008 12:39 pm

Subject: Re: How can a site owner recognize a competent SEO?

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I got something out of it, yorky, so thanks! I've got a question for
you. Would you ever consider paying an SEO company to get you up on
those terms? Judging by your site, it's clear that you've done some
reading on the basics of seo but when it comes right down to it, every
webmaster who is serious about competing on Google really should hire
a professional. I ask because I'm noticing more and more webmasters
share your perspective on SEO, which (and this is just an assumption -
please correct me if I'm wrong) is that you can do it yourself. At the
risk of sounding rude, I just don't have time for these types of
clients and I turn them down on the spot. My point is that just
because I don't want to work with you doesn't mean it's because you
know a thing or two about SEO. It's because you think you do. So, my
humble tip for webmasters (site owners) is to make sure that you are
qualified to determine the SEO's competency or you could miss out on a
great find.

On Jul 3, 5:01 pm, yorky wrote:

> Hi everybody
> I am not a professional webmaster I am 70 years old and did not get
> into computing until about 91 and have never had a tutor only books,
> and books or tutorials always seem to assume that you know more than
> you do, i just use logic i have just built a site for a friendwww.raistrickahaw.co.ukand when i ran it by whois seo it came out at
> 98% allowing for errors it is not bad for an old man,how I envy you
> young guns, I just wish I had, had somebody looking over my shoulder
> and telling me what i was doing wrong. I canonly build basic websites
> I love flash for headers but I am lost with java script. webado has
> tried to enlighten me but i think i finished up trying her patience
> and she is brilliant
> , my own sitewww.floridahotelblackpool.co.ukcomes in at 2 or 3 for
> the search term, blackpool central hotels, or hotels in central
> blackpool, out of about a million combinations, so you see i have a
> lot of competition.
> Sorry I know I got off subject a bit but my advice is use common sence

> On Jul 3, 7:25 pm, Adam Moro wrote:

> > Great idea, John! I can't wait to hear what people say. Becky,
> > although I think most of everything you suggest is on-point, I don't
> > think you understand something very important about off-page SEO.
> > Benefits from off-page efforts do not die when the money runs out.
> > Just because you aren't paying your SEO company anymore for link
> > development doesn't mean the links they developed while working for
> > you will simply dissappear. It frightens me that someone who seemingly
> > has a grasp on the fundamentals of SEO doesn't recognize that. That
> > sounds rude but it's not meant to be. It honestly worries me a bit.

> > But be careful about the misleading questions though. It's very easy
> > to tell when someone's doing that and it can actually help the smarter
> > "snakeoil" types to better profile you. If they know what you do know
> > about the shady stuff, then they'll know what you don't know as well.

> > On Jul 1, 12:58 am, JohnMu wrote:

> > > Hi everyone!

> > > We just added something to the blog asking for feedback on our page
> > > about finding an SEO:http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2008/06/what-are-your-seo-...

> > > I'd love to get your feedback here as well!

> > > Suppose a webmaster were to come to you and ask for advice on finding
> > > someone who can help optimize his site for search engines. How would
> > > you recommend that they get started? Where should they look for SEOs?
> > > Which questions should they ask? How could they recognize competent
> > > (or incompetent) SEOs?

> > > I know that in some cases it's a good idea to learn all of this
> > > yourself, but in many situations it's just not possible or they just
> > > need help to make sure that things are right.

> > > Looking forward to your feedback!
> > > John

> > > PS The updated help center page is athttp://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35291

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