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More options May 3 2007, 9:43 pm

From: IceGiant

Date: Thu, 03 May 2007 04:43:27 -0700

Local: Thurs, May 3 2007 9:43 pm

Subject: Re: Final Request for Moderation - Gohde

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> is it any wonder that participation in this forum by
> the people who used to contribute the most has dropped significantly?

There does seem to have been a rather drastic reduction in not only
the number of 'regulars' who hang around there during the last few
months, but also the level of participation of some of those who
remain.

Since I'm not the world's most constant poster myself, I'd previously
put this down to work-commitments on the part of others. It would
appear though that quite a few have taken flight simply because this
place no longer has the feelgood factor it used to and has instead
become something of a sporadic battleground.

There have to be some enforcable rules of conduct, not only for the
sake of regular contributors but also the unseen masses who arrive
here asking simple (also oftentimes complicated and frequently inane
or silly) questions about their sites before disappearing, never to
return, once their query has been answered or they have been suitably
alienated.

This place has a phenomenal visitor turnover... If it turns into
mudslinging central, word about Google Webmaster Help being nothing
but a war zone will get around the web at the speed of thought.

There will always be disagreements in places like this, but by (insert
deity here), there needs to be a way to ensure these stay civilised
and don't get out of hand.

I've seen things go to bits before, albeit only with a Star Wars fan-
club, not with a Google group...
There's madness down that road, as I said in a post in another thread
a few days ago.

http://groups.google.com/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-chit-chat/browse...

So yes, I think the matter of everyone here having to stick to the
same set of 'play nicely' rules is becoming a matter of some urgency.

Sasch

On May 3, 9:34 am, cass-hacks wrote:

> Since N-H-P/John H. Gohde's promise to "poke fun at" the people who
> contribute the most in the Google Webmaster Help forum seems to have
> more so turned into a threat with his idea of "poking fun" being to
> defame people, is it any wonder that participation in this forum by
> the people who used to contribute the most has dropped significantly?

> Craig

> On May 2, 9:04 pm, dockarl wrote:

> > Hi everyone - I don't want to start another ranting Gohde thread, but
> > I think that the time has about come for something to be done to make
> > him realise this is no game, this isn't a place for him to come to
> > abuse people.

> > John has today crossed an important line. He's prgressed from personal
> > attacks to outright defamation. That's a line at which I abruptly lose
> > my sense of humour.

> > Please seehttp://groups.google.com.au/group/Google_Webmaster_Help-chit-chat/bro...

> > W.R.T. the 'half naked graphics', I think he's referring to the
> > website of a lingerie company I direct - I don't care about that.

> > What really concerns me is that John has implied that he thinks that
> > I'm reponsible forhttp://www.naturalhealthperspective.net. He's
> > implied the same various times, but never directly until now .

> > At first, I laughed it off and told him to pull his head in, but then
> > I thought about his post for a few minutes - these are public forums.
> > I don't want searchable, public records painting me as someone that
> > would devote myself to writing a hate blog.

> > I explained to John that these days potential employers / business
> > partners etc often do background searches on people prior to forming
> > partnerships with them - I've even done it. I explained to John that I
> > don't want to be known as the type of person that would write a hate
> > blog about another person - it's just not who I am - as a person I
> > aspire to tolerance. It's a central tenet of who I am, it's central to
> > my being - that's why I've butted heads with him previously when he's
> > used these forums for xenophobic and racist monologues.

> > Regardless of the fact that I think the very fact that someone has
> > devoted a hate blog to him speaks volumes, I will not idly stand by
> > and let him progress from just being a pest to using these forums as a
> > platform for overtly defamatory / slanderous comments.

> > I've given him a chance to recant his allegation, and he has not only
> > failed to do so, he's taken it up a notch. Enough is enough.

> > I formally and very seriously request that the following actions be
> > taken:-

> > 1. The posts in question be expunged.
> > 2. John be placed on permanent moderation or banned from these groups
> > entirely.

> > John has crossed a line, his statements are very clearly defamatory -
> > and would not be tolerated in the real world - why should they be
> > tolerated in this, a real world forum? He obviously thinks this is
> > some sort of game.

> > I am no longer amused.

> > Matthew James (dockarl)

> > On May 2, 5:55 am, Volvox777 wrote:

> > > NHP wrote in response to my comment that the NHP.net site is not run
> > > by me

> > I miss read that post. :(

> > You are NOT the hate blogger, because he is NOT mentally unstable:
> > unlike you.

> > I would say that dockarl is the most likely person. Since both have
> > displayed a marked preference for semi-naked female graphics.- Hide quoted text -

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